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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 280 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

ICE ILLEGALLY detains US citizen.

We need some precision in our language.

[–] Coldgoron@lemm.ee 60 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They may have released him according this post.

https://bsky.app/profile/mcornatzer.bsky.social/post/3ln2bnkpfwc26

I’m not defending this shit but staying up to date and informed on this shit is hard.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 71 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It was still illegal to detain him in the first place.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And if they continue to be allowed to skip due process, citizens will end up getting deported.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This might have already happened. We don't actually know for sure.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 7 points 4 days ago

Definitely true.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago

Here’s hoping they sue and get a huuuge settlement.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The ambulance-chasers need to have a feeding frenzy on this.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Millions of patriots with torches and pitchforks need to have a feeding frenzy on this.

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[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

~~ICE~~ Trump's Gestapo illegally kidnaps US citizens and other humans for the purpose of sending them to a death camp in El Salvidor, which, regardless of whether or not they are a criminal or even whether or not they get due process is unconstitutional under the 8th amendment, not that ~~Hitler~~ Trump cares about the law.

I don't know if you saw those pictures of CECOT with the pile of human bodies, but if you haven't, don't look it up unless you don't want to sleep.

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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 124 points 5 days ago (14 children)
[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 48 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I truly don't think democracy has very long in this country. Either the people rise up or die under oppression.

Our systems have failed

[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

[sound of bell chiming]

...

"I don't think this egg timer has very long before it counts down to zero."

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[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago

I asked my governor if they could waive the CCP law...for reasons. But yeah, I guess some people are going to have to be disobeying the law.

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[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 109 points 5 days ago (2 children)

SEND THE AGENT THAT ARRESTED HIM TO JAIL. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO AFTER THE BOSSES, SEND THE FUCKERS DOING THE DIRTY WORK TO JAIL AND THIS WILL STOP.

[–] florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 4 days ago

You can beat the charge and even win money but you can't beat the car ride and jail cell visit.

And until we start demanding a higher class of police officer, bullies too lazy for the military are what we will get. Not that I'd want better police officers in this dystopian police system.

[–] dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 5 days ago (4 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So what? Do it anyway. PUNISH THEM during that lag between when the offense is detected and when Trump finds out and is able to act (if he chooses to act, which isn't actually a guarantee). Even if they only sit in a holding cell for a matter of days or even hours, at least the experience of being strip-searched, fingerprinted, having their mugshot taken, and forced to wear an orange jumpsuit would be SOMETHING!

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago

You can get a conviction expunged from your record but the record that you were arrested never goes away. Even if you aren't convicted, try getting into an apartment in a decent area with an arrest for kidnapping on your record.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 33 points 5 days ago

Arrest them on state charges for kidnapping.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago

State kidnapping charges

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 99 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Lopez Gomez, 21, was born in Georgia. According to court records, he has been assigned a judge as well as a public defender. He appears to have been arrested and charged under an “anti-immigration” law passed in Florida two months ago, despite the fact that the law is currently under a temporary restraining order and isn’t supposed to be enforced.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 57 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A Federal Agency is holding him under State Law? WTF???

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

Afaik he was being detained by the state, initially under suspicion of breaking the law but then later they continued to hold him just because ICE asked them to.

Reporting on this story hasn't been very good, it's been difficult to follow the more nuanced details of what's going on. But the bottom line is very clear: he was detained illegally, and the fascists wanted to deport him anyway.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 38 points 5 days ago

Ergo, he's being detained illegally.

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[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 57 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Makes you wonder how many US citizens have already been "Administratively errored" to El Salvador.

New rules.

Are you brown? Do you primarily speak a language other than English? Do you have a common but ethnic name like Gomez? Are you a Chicago Bulls fan? Do you have any kind of marking or birthmark on you that someone could claim is a secret gang tattoo? Do you have a name similar to or even live near anybody who fits any of the above criteria?

If the answer to one or more of those questions is "yes", I wouldn't be leaving the house. You can literally find yourself on a plane destined for El Salvador literally before your family even realizes you haven't made it home from work yet, because the new rules are that as long as they can stick you on that plane and get that plane in the air before a judge can say something, they get to get away with it and you have no recourse. Good luck ever speaking to anyone who even speaks English ever again, let alone family.

What's scary is that that is not hyperbole.

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 33 points 4 days ago

Leaving his citizenship aside for a moment, he was accused of breaking a state immigration law. The law has been halted by court order and is currently not enforceable. The constitution makes immigration a federal matter. Also if it's a state law, why is he being held by ICE, a federal agency?

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

Hello USA citizen.

Because you are new to dealing with your government, and because some here who been seeing how USA government and its propaganda machine work know better…

I would like to draw your attention to the fact all these news coming as “ICE did this and that” is basically aim to draw the attention away from the real people who did this.

So next time you see “ICE” remember that this Trump and his friend. If you can dig deep who is running ICE that will also work.

putting a name of a person instead of company or group work better in stopping them. See Luigi incident for inspiration…

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 29 points 5 days ago

Homegrowns really are next, huh?

[–] Princessk8@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Look out for your community

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

Start hanging out in immigrant communities exercising your rights to gun ownership.

[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I thought this would start to happen next week, but here we are already.

https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/17763637

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (7 children)

I said the same thing myself about 2 days ago.

We've still got 13 days to go. US citizens are being detained, and white people are already being served with deportation orders despite being US citizens. I stand by my prediction: A US citizen will end up in El Salvador by the end of the month, and it could even be a white person.

This is no longer about immigration. The brown people that Trump hates so much aren't the target any more. They're just another pawn in the game. Trump is making his authoritarian power grab and this is the line in the sand. The new message isn't "Get rid of the brown people." It's now "Get rid of anyone I don't like.", and he will have no problems making an example out of a white person if it thinks it will further erode resistance.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This will NEVER Happen to me!

-LITERALLY EVERYONE who Voted for Trump!

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 9 points 5 days ago

My local Trumpers are completely sure this is fake news and nothing bad is happening.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Are they going to send this person to the CECOT mound?

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