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Can't we just call it corrupt? It may not even be illegal, but it's definitely corrupt.
I think the general public couldn't care less about Trump doing illegal things, but Trump or his cronies doing things labelled as corrupt might get their attention.
I think the general public couldn’t care less about Trump doing illegal things, but Trump or his cronies doing things labelled as corrupt might get their attention.
the problem is what you and every decent person would see as corrupt, they see as a fulfilled promise.
Well, let's get on with changing some attitudes.
When the slave tradewas banned in Britain, one of the biggest hurdles, as I understand it, was getting the British public to change their minds on it. It's economically lucrative, the victims are "uncivilised" people (who, let's be fair, were selling their own into slavery), and those that want slavery to continue shape the messaging into feeling like slavery is okay business. Getting that changed involved showing the British public just how horrendous the slave trade conditions were.
If you want a United America against fascism, you've got to work on showing Republicans the reality of the corruption, without dismissing them as "uncivilised". It takes time, but grassroots is where to start.
When the slave tradewas banned in Britain, one of the biggest hurdles, as I understand it, was getting the British public to change their minds on it. It’s economically lucrative, the victims are “uncivilised” people (who, let’s be fair, were selling their own into slavery), and those that want slavery to continue shape the messaging into feeling like slavery is okay business. Getting that changed involved showing the British public just how horrendous the slave trade conditions were.
i get where youre coming but theres is an shocking amount of Trumpers who will readily defend slavery and 'states rights' and its been a long time since the country decided that was a bad thing, and here they are still parroting the talking points. i feel like for your scenario to come true, these people would have to be operating in good faith...and theyre not. if you could convince them that corruption was happening without them calling it fake news they would just use whataboutism to excuse it. "well biden did _____!, what about that?" as if 'the other side' doing it somehow makes it okay when they do it, despite complaining about it.
i dont think they will ever see it like you and me, because to them its not corruption. if you ask any Trumper to come up with a hypothetical scenario where they flip on him, they wont be able to do it. perhaps because they already live in a hypothetical reality and adding another layer makes it confusing, or maybe their mind excuses Trump in real time for any imagined grievances. either way theres no way to deprogram these people at this point, they are lost and they always will be enemies of truth, love, and freedom.
General public includes Trumpers but also people who are just ignorant that Trump is doing anything wrong. If you change their minds, you tip the balance.
yea i get it includes those ignorant of Trump, but i feel like the media shot itself in the foot with this one. the media cried wolf for 8 years, any time trump did or said ANYTHING that wasnt completely evil/obnoxious they would try to spin it that way anyway. it seems like trust for the media is at an all time low from everyone, and the way comments are astroturfed with bots...it makes it almost impossible to put out any sort of powerful message that isnt drowned out by infinite bullshit.
i think america and its religion of capitalism is facing its doomsday. greed cascades and inevitably enshittifies everything that can be monetized - and nobody does that better than America. problem is, decades of decimating the education system to create better consumers has created generations of people who will just stare blankly with occasional blinks if you try to talk about anything real, or you get the "i dont do politics" which makes it harder to convince to give a shit.
lets say the majority of the general public is on the same page about Trump...we've already established that he is immune to all laws and can pardon anyone who isnt. hes actively ignoring the constitution and ignoring judges orders. the militia/2nd amendment types are mostly his cultists so i dont see that taking off. so whats next at this point?
Audits all the way down...