Looks like if you re approached by ICE, you need to assume it's a kidnapping.
this post was submitted on 15 Apr 2025
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And being sent to El Salvador is a death sentence. I would act in self-defense appropriately.
Glad to hear it. State law is not your friend, and now, it's your enemy. If you're targeted, the vest that says POLICE (or ICE) means nothing. They are just people in a fancy outfit. They're still there to intrude and fuck up your life.
Laying down doesn't save these people any more.
Laying down doesn't save them anymore? Never has.
Because it 100% is a kidnapping. This is so freaking dangerous and entrapping.
And compliance will not save you
Indeed, do not cooperate and fight back. They are NOT a legal authority. If they have a uniformed officer with them (state or city), demand the officer arrest you instead. It MAY be worth it to cause a scuffle and get arrested for assault, which could be dropped as self defense. I'm not a lawyer though, just my opinion. You have to fight these assholes. Get the low level pukes into court and tied up fighting charges. Make them scared to do their master's bidding.
At this point, you’re fucked, might as well arm yourself. Rather go out like that then be tortured in a foreign prison.
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I'm gonna guess this sort of thing is more the rule than the exception. The goal isn't to deport actual gang members, it's to signal a tough-on-illegal-immigration policy without the challenge that comes with actually deporting people who aren't trying to be found. So they just deport law abiding people who are easier to find because the reality doesn't matter.
The illegal part seems to be optional in some cases, based on skin tone.
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Can somebody shoot the ICE agents already? Your stupid guns are all show. No difference whether you have any at all...
I’ve personally heard a few people say that’s exactly their plan. It’s basically “I’m a citizen but I’m brown so I’m fucked either way. I might as well make em work for it since the end result for me will be the same regardless. If I’m gonna get taken down, I might as well make it worth it. Why wait to die in an El Salvadorian prison, when I can go out where it’ll at least make some headlines?”
Again, I have heard several people say things like this individually. I fully believe it’ll happen eventually, as soon as they try to stop the wrong person.
The problem is that the wrong people have guns in the US. Most of the left ignorantly believes that they can get by without, when half the country is armed and is practically begging their god emperor to say the word.
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No gang ties, no criminal history, not even from that country.
We are the baddies.
It's a shame, there was a scene cut where Captain America walks by a building showing graffiti art of his helmet with the word 'fascist' in red on it, causing him to sigh and toss it off. I don't think he wore it again until Endgame, where they incorporated it into the time travel suit.
Wish that scene should've been kept in, and had a bit more focus on Steve Rodgers questioning if he truly was working for organizations that believed what he did. A crisis of faith moment for him instead of a quick 3-second pass with a joke from Hawkeye.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7g7stCb4qY&ab_channel=cutiesmolbaby
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Not a cartoon anymore.
Never was.
He's higher on that chart than Griffin though... Need to move Not Okay just below the top square.
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According to the original article, he was here legally waiting until their court date in 2027 to see a judge. He is not a US citizen, but he also is not an “illegal alien.”
No alleged history of crime. No crime in process when detained. Was following the immigration process.
If anyone wants to argue with you about others who have been detained and deported as being “criminals” or “illegals,” this should be evidence to the fact that it isn’t true and ICE doesn’t care. We’re in the slippery slope now.
There's no slope. We're at the ''you didn't stop this when it was stoppable''
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Now? We're damn near the bottom of the mountain at this point.
I really fear that this is just the beginning of much worse things to come.
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Well Trump essentially made it official yesterday that even if someone is imprisoned by mistake it will not be reversed
And if you are someone he doesn't like, for your views, your skin color, your accent, your sexual orientation, your gender, your education, your occupation, your ethnicity, the way you look at him, or how you don't fawn over him enough or fall behind with your protection payments, he'll have you "accidentally" kidnapped and imprisoned for life or until the Salvadoran authorities decide you're a waste of resources and kill you.
Bottom line: if you weren't born here, you're getting thrown out, and NOTHING will stop them, including a Green Card or Naturalization.
Eventually, it won't even matter if you were born here, and are a full natural American-born citizen, from generations of American-born citizens. If they don't like you, you're gone.
They're already admiting they are targeting US citizens.
This is why he's selling those dipshit citizenship gold Visa's. He gets your money and he'll still just send you to El Salvador.
Of course, realize that being a natural born us citizen isn't going to stop them at some point. When they have eliminated whomever they deem a problem, it won't be missing accomplished, it will just be time to modify the parameters of who a problem person is
Both the American and El Salvadoran heads of state have stated that neither is able to return people sent from the US to CECOT.
In other words, this man will die in CECOT.
That sends a chill down my spine. If neither heads of state can return the people, that can only mean that they're already dead.
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Lol, the "fairness meter" says unfair left leaning. The article is literally just stating what occurred. ❄️
Facts have a liberal bias.
If you didn't vote it doesn't show the result.
So it just defaults to unfair left?
Not really. There is no default value and the UI renders the initial needle state as being off the chart.
Click the unfair left and see what happens (it does not automatically submit your vote).
Yeah it's not the greatest UI. It's in its "resting" state like in a car, but it makes it look like it's so far left it's off the charts. They should just not have the needle until you vote.
Got it. Thanks for the info! That is a little misleading how they have it.
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Forcibly remove first, ask questions later is going to soon end up kidnapping random people out of the country...
Conservative excuses and goalposts will adapt as we go along:
- but look, he was supposed to be deported anyway (Abrego Garcia)
- doesn't matter that he has a valid asylum case, he came here illegally so he should be kicked out (Gutiérrez)
- If you don't want to support America, you shouldn't have a green card (Mahdawi)
- he looks like he came from out of the country and he helps illegal migrants anyway, too bad he's a US citizen
- these were people spewing violent rhetoric about Trump and America, take them out of the country if they don't want to be here
- hey wait, this is a mistake!? (future kidnapped Conservative)
“Soon end up” … my dude, it 100% already is. This article is exactly that. A random kidnapping and booting.
It's already resulting in them kidnapping random people out of the country.
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Wilmer Gutiérrez last spoke to his son on March 16 during a brief call allowed by police. He had spent days searching for information, visiting police stations and courthouses, only to be told there was no record of his son.
If anybody is wondering what conservatives think, they haven't yet gotten their instructions for this particular case yet
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Are American law enforcement just reading Nazi history and emulating it at this point?
"Oh yeah, they did this in 1942 so we should do that too!! ... Kristallnacht? ... oh yeah, we gotta do that one too! ... and book burnings and maybe a giant parade or a mass rally with flags and shit"
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Insane.
MAGA
I wonder how long until someone in Trump’s circle suggests they have people wearing symbols on their shirts so they can’t make these mistakes anymore?
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