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[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago

Welcome to the party.

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[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (6 children)

A danish news organization will have articles about what Danes think of tariffs. The same with a Canadian news organization, a German one, etc. Yet for some reason almost all of what American sources talk about is what citizens of other countries think.

I think the fact that American establishment publications put out more articles about what citizens of other countries think of tariffs than what Americans think of tariffs is part of the reason why Trump won.

The upper 10 percent of liberal America seems to think of themselves as citizens of the world, and seems to spend more time caring about anything other than Americans outside their hyper-specific socioeconomic niche.

The end result of this mentality is that Trump was able to make huge inroads with groups that were historically democrat's bread and butter in 2024. Even if he was lying through his teeth, he and his team made real efforts to appeal to issues that were important for demographics.

I'm willing to bet you could find people from Hawaii to Mississippi altering their spending habits in fear of Trump's tarrifs. Maybe the press should spend more time reporting on them.

Obviously, neither Trump nor MAGA is the answer. However there needs to be a way to talk with how out of touch so much of our establishment is without sounding like a Trump supporter.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

it sort of doesn't matter because the billionaires control the media to the point that they can set up inflation and immigration as the major issues and portray Trump as the solution to them while, in all statistical measures, the inflation and immigration were just fine under Biden and all of Trump's related policies are godawful

[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Inflation and immigration were both at like 40 year highs. Also not only did a large number of billionaires favor Harris, but Harris won the majority of American households making over 200k per year.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

inflation, yes, for 2021-2022 but it was in normal territory for 2023-2024. immigration, there is no rational argument for why a high rate is bad

[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You know the US isn't the only country that has issues due to letting in more immigrants than they can handle right? You are stating a position that would be considered radical in virtually every western nation as if it were an established fact.

[–] match@pawb.social 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

the US isn't a country that has issues due to letting in more immigrants. the US historically has a culture based in immigration and diversity as a cultural touchstone and does not suffer from immigration in the way that a country where the national identity is tightly coupled to an ethnolinguistic group would.

[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Okay so I'd like you to take a few minutes to Google previous immigration waves to the US, and the strife they caused in both a cultural and economic sense.

Just because things worked out eventually doesn't mean there weren't extreme issues getting there.

Are you even American? This is something the vast majority of Americans know from both an educational and family history perspective.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 21 hours ago

i'm not just american, i'm the child of an immigrant to america. i'm aware of the strife because my ancestors encountered it, but again, the strife historically hasn't been because of rational self-interest in labor forces but because of racist and moneyed forces coaxing lateral violence between communities

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Time for a raid on South Vinland.

[–] thefluffiest 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Berserkers were known for their anti-tariff policies

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

Trump's term is like a ticking clock, berserker!

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