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[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

A danish news organization will have articles about what Danes think of tariffs. The same with a Canadian news organization, a German one, etc. Yet for some reason almost all of what American sources talk about is what citizens of other countries think.

I think the fact that American establishment publications put out more articles about what citizens of other countries think of tariffs than what Americans think of tariffs is part of the reason why Trump won.

The upper 10 percent of liberal America seems to think of themselves as citizens of the world, and seems to spend more time caring about anything other than Americans outside their hyper-specific socioeconomic niche.

The end result of this mentality is that Trump was able to make huge inroads with groups that were historically democrat's bread and butter in 2024. Even if he was lying through his teeth, he and his team made real efforts to appeal to issues that were important for demographics.

I'm willing to bet you could find people from Hawaii to Mississippi altering their spending habits in fear of Trump's tarrifs. Maybe the press should spend more time reporting on them.

Obviously, neither Trump nor MAGA is the answer. However there needs to be a way to talk with how out of touch so much of our establishment is without sounding like a Trump supporter.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago

End the concept of billionaires so they can’t buy all the media.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is a news article published in the 'world news' community of a worldwide Internet forum, from one of the oldest and most respected not-for-profit news agencies in the world, whom themselves published the article in their 'world news' section. It discusses Danish people's overwhelmingly negative responses to the American president's tariffs.

And you somehow make this into "ugh why to the liberal elite always only care about what the rest of the world thinks".

Maybe, just maybe, this article wasn't written nor shared solely for the demographic of USA voters?

[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Quit it with this gaslighting shit.

The AP is headquartered in NYC. They write their articles in American English. They spend a wholly disproportionate time covering US news, and the closest relationships they have are with US institutions. The author of this article has an American education at a state-managed university.

The national language of Denmark is Danish. 15 percent of the nation doesn't even speak English.

This is 100 percent an article meant for US audiences, from a primarily US news organization.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People from Denmark also all learn English during school and have done since at least the 60s, which is why you found that only 15% of them can't speak English. Over 50% of Danes correspond in English for their work and are confident they can read English news according to 2013 survey. The proportion of US Americans that can't read AP News stories is honestly probably higher, with the US now at 21% illiteracy.

AP News may be primarily US-focused news source, but they are a global news organization. They sell their stories via syndication to hundreds of other news organizations and newspapers worldwide, in multiple languages, and have done for a very long time. To decide that all their articles are automatically for US audiences is just wrong.

Gaslighting is repeatedly presenting information that's untrue to convince someone of an alternate reality. Literally not possible to do in a single message, and nothing I wrote is not factual.

I only tried to let you see how Americentrist your response to OOP was, and your subsequent response is to weaponise victimhood to dismiss any introspection. I will not waste further time.

[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world -1 points 21 hours ago

This is the repeated part right here. If this article was primarily targeted towards Denmark, it wouldn't be written in American English. You danced around that point. English is a second language for Denmark. An article targeted at Danes would be in Danish.

You're a manipulative POS.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it sort of doesn't matter because the billionaires control the media to the point that they can set up inflation and immigration as the major issues and portray Trump as the solution to them while, in all statistical measures, the inflation and immigration were just fine under Biden and all of Trump's related policies are godawful

[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Inflation and immigration were both at like 40 year highs. Also not only did a large number of billionaires favor Harris, but Harris won the majority of American households making over 200k per year.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

inflation, yes, for 2021-2022 but it was in normal territory for 2023-2024. immigration, there is no rational argument for why a high rate is bad

[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You know the US isn't the only country that has issues due to letting in more immigrants than they can handle right? You are stating a position that would be considered radical in virtually every western nation as if it were an established fact.

[–] match@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the US isn't a country that has issues due to letting in more immigrants. the US historically has a culture based in immigration and diversity as a cultural touchstone and does not suffer from immigration in the way that a country where the national identity is tightly coupled to an ethnolinguistic group would.

[–] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay so I'd like you to take a few minutes to Google previous immigration waves to the US, and the strife they caused in both a cultural and economic sense.

Just because things worked out eventually doesn't mean there weren't extreme issues getting there.

Are you even American? This is something the vast majority of Americans know from both an educational and family history perspective.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

i'm not just american, i'm the child of an immigrant to america. i'm aware of the strife because my ancestors encountered it, but again, the strife historically hasn't been because of rational self-interest in labor forces but because of racist and moneyed forces coaxing lateral violence between communities