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Time to break free of traditional political ideological labeling and divisions. Time to abandon old, divisive sociopolitical labels like "liberal" and "conservative".

A new political party based on a vastly, commonly held virtures lends itself to embrace over 66% of Americans, and it clearly embraces progressive principled thinking. In the most ideal American sense of unity, a political party should not be able to be defined or placed as "to the left" or "to the right" of where the Democratic or Republican parties currently are. Just let it exist organically based on present-day principled thinking. The American Progressive Majority.


Originally Posted By u/Atlanticbboy At 2025-03-23 04:38:18 AM | Source


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[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 27 points 2 days ago (26 children)

it's wild that only 55% of you guys want a fairer health care system

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It’s because the phrase “Medicare for all” has been propagandized. If you instead asked if people wanted “affordable medical treatment and preventative care for themselves and others”, I’m sure that number would be much higher.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Clearly people aren't voting the same way they're answering surveys. I don't see how forming a new party will make that happen.

Yeah, that’s a very succinct way to put it.

[–] Ronno 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I observe the same thing here in The Netherlands. In theory, democracy should work best for the working class majority. In practice, people somehow tend to vote for something not in their own self interest.

Wonderful example is the area where I live, our town shares a border with a Belgian town. Most people do groceries on one side of the border, go to the bar on the other side. In essence, we operate as one town that happens to be in two countries. Ask anyone in the street if they are open to a "Nexit" from the EU, most will say a hard: "No".

Then look at the election results, the party in favor of a Nexit became the largest party, also in the town I live. It's wild that people vote different to what they believe in. If you then ask them: why did you vote for this party, because it contrasts your earlier answer. People will say: "Yeah, but it won't come to that". Then I look at Brexit and it's exactly how that cluster fuck happened.

My brain simply cannot process this idiocracy.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I think the key is the term "informed electorate". As Trump said, "I love the uneducated!"

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Ok but now is not a good time to disarm

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The working class must never disarm. Post jan 6th and George floydd and people still have yet to learn that no one will protect us but ourselves. How delusional of me to think anything will ever drive this point home in people's frightened minds.

It would be nice to have some reforms, but that's not what anti gun people want. They want everything. We could pass reforms and somebody will shoot up some gun free zone and people will be back to take more. It's a never ending circle that only stops at fully stripping the right to own a firearm completely. Some aren't even ashamed to admit it.

My body, my choice in how to protect it. Prisons are gun free, prisoners have very few rights. Yet rape / violence in prisons are a running joke everyone enjoys repeating. I will not be a prisoner.

Good luck to OP with their party but I want no part of it. Plus they aren't in favor of legalizing all drugs so you support the police state's right to continue to ruin lives and shoot people for fun with no repercussions. Not to mention the lives lost from tainted unregulated drugs of a unknown potency. Oh and nothing on replacing First-past-the-post voting so we can have more then two parties? Super hard pass. We'd only be 3-4 generations before the capitalist class captures this political party as well. If not less.

If only we could join a commune that best reflects each of our values. OP could be completely unarmed in their commune and mine would have nukes cause humans are psychotic hairless apes that only respect one thing. Overwhelming violence.

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[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Any party that tries to be created with populism but ignores the materialist analyist of how we got to this point and how to combat reactionary thinking and regressivism (which is conservatism, which is why its a universal flaw) will only fall to the same tactics and pitfalls that have led us to this division in the first place. We need a true worker's parry that understands that division of power and group interests lay on class lines (capitalists vs workers) and not on any of the manufacturered scapegoat ones. Progressive ideas are popular yes, but they need to come with actual systematic analysis or they will just morph into right-wing populism through lack of critical thinking and bad actors.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

70% couldn't ve bothered voting knowing it meant democracy's end

Good intentions are important Americans, but you cannot make the world a better place just by having good intentions and navel gazing

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

The current two party system doesn't represent what the majority wants. Both parties work for the super wealthy. Until we get rid of the Democratic and Republican parties nothing good will happen.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Only a little more than half support Medicare for all? Is this a terminology issue, or are 45% of Americans that terrible?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Sadly there's this idea that Americans are being taxed to death, when in reality not so much.

People don't understand that while we'd pay maybe hundreds more in taxes to fund Single Payer, we'd pay THOUSANDS less in healthcare costs, so we still come out ahead

[–] DarthKaren@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They also don't understand the "they" part. People who don't support, or at least those I've met, don't understand that "they" doesn't mean the government per se. It means you. The individual. You pay more in health care because of defaults on payments. Because of so many other things. The cost of that gets passed on to you. The individual.

People get stuck in the "I got mine" mentality. They don't see the bigger picture. "Why should I pay for someone else's health care!" is what I commonly hear. My dude, you already do. When you point this out. When you give the stats. They usually shut down and it's"

10 "Why should I pay for someone else's health care!"

20 goto 10

People just can't seem to grasp the wider picture. I'm not sure they want to. Any issue that requires a wider picture sees the same response. Default to previous operation. Repeat operation.

"Oh no! She's stuck in an infinite loop and he's too stupid to realize it." - Professor F

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[–] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

But I'm not sick or injured right now, so it won't benefit me at this exact second in time, so why would I want this?

Plus my unstable career, where I'm treated as a number rather than a human, is currently paying for my health insurance. So I don't need any government handouts thankyou very much.

Yeah, checkmate commie.

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[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

This is a better platform than the Dems provided in 2024. Upvoted and cross-posted.

[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Our entire US system is set up to make it so that it is essentially (literally) impossible for a third party to win. This article gives a decent basic overview of why: https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4947662-why-a-third-party-presidential-candidate-can-never-win/

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[–] Ougie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Aside from everything else, only 55% want universal healthcare and only 76% want higher minimum wages? That seems surprisingly low. I would think that everyone would want higher wages - starting from the lowest paid...

[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think you need to somehow get money out of politics or these majorities will continue to be divided.

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[–] Rin@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

If there are so many people thinking this way, then where are they? Where are the mass protests about rights being trampled, services being taken away and converted into money for the rich?

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Then why didn't they fucking vote for it?

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[–] Nunar@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (7 children)

AOC and Bernie are tearing up things! Support them everywhere! Especially on social media.

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[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (18 children)

These numbers are bullshit.

Who in their right mind actually believes Americans prefer gun control to: abortion care, legal weed, gay marriage, higher minimum wage, and home ownership.

Like regardless of what you or I want for America, that's an actual load of shit. Too many people love their guns, there's literally more guns than people here.

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