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Time to break free of traditional political ideological labeling and divisions. Time to abandon old, divisive sociopolitical labels like "liberal" and "conservative".

A new political party based on a vastly, commonly held virtures lends itself to embrace over 66% of Americans, and it clearly embraces progressive principled thinking. In the most ideal American sense of unity, a political party should not be able to be defined or placed as "to the left" or "to the right" of where the Democratic or Republican parties currently are. Just let it exist organically based on present-day principled thinking. The American Progressive Majority.


Originally Posted By u/Atlanticbboy At 2025-03-23 04:38:18 AM | Source


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[–] Ougie@lemmy.world 1 points 41 minutes ago

Aside from everything else, only 55% want universal healthcare and only 76% want higher minimum wages? That seems surprisingly low. I would think that everyone would want higher wages - starting from the lowest paid...

[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Any party that tries to be created with populism but ignores the materialist analyist of how we got to this point and how to combat reactionary thinking and regressivism (which is conservatism, which is why its a universal flaw) will only fall to the same tactics and pitfalls that have led us to this division in the first place. We need a true worker's parry that understands that division of power and group interests lay on class lines (capitalists vs workers) and not on any of the manufacturered scapegoat ones. Progressive ideas are popular yes, but they need to come with actual systematic analysis or they will just morph into right-wing populism through lack of critical thinking and bad actors.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

If there are so many people thinking this way, then where are they? Where are the mass protests about rights being trampled, services being taken away and converted into money for the rich?

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Clearly people aren't voting the same way they're answering surveys. I don't see how forming a new party will make that happen.

[–] Ronno 7 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, I observe the same thing here in The Netherlands. In theory, democracy should work best for the working class majority. In practice, people somehow tend to vote for something not in their own self interest.

Wonderful example is the area where I live, our town shares a border with a Belgian town. Most people do groceries on one side of the border, go to the bar on the other side. In essence, we operate as one town that happens to be in two countries. Ask anyone in the street if they are open to a "Nexit" from the EU, most will say a hard: "No".

Then look at the election results, the party in favor of a Nexit became the largest party, also in the town I live. It's wild that people vote different to what they believe in. If you then ask them: why did you vote for this party, because it contrasts your earlier answer. People will say: "Yeah, but it won't come to that". Then I look at Brexit and it's exactly how that cluster fuck happened.

My brain simply cannot process this idiocracy.

[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 27 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

it's wild that only 55% of you guys want a fairer health care system

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It’s because the phrase “Medicare for all” has been propagandized. If you instead asked if people wanted “affordable medical treatment and preventative care for themselves and others”, I’m sure that number would be much higher.

[–] wisely@feddit.org 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

A lot of women, LGBT also don't trust Medicare to provide healthcare coverage. They already do not cover a lot of their politicized medical care, and are cutting more. There wouldn't be an alternative either if no private market.

Things like HRT, surgery, abortion, birth control, surrogacy, IVF, vaccinations, prophylactics, etc could be excluded depending on the politics of who is in charge.

[–] Lyrl@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The idea is Medicare for all as baseline, and private market on top of that. Every country with single payer health care also has private market clinics. The idea that private markets would be outlawed is a misunderstanding, and when pushed by those who would make less money under a single baseline payer system, is misinformation.

[–] wisely@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Interesting I did not know that. Would MFA lead to increased private insurance premiums over what they are now? Would less subscribers lead to many providers not being in network?

Still not an ideal situation if women and LGBT were forced onto even more expensive private plans for coverage.

At any rate I think most people want universal coverage it's just our politics and system is so complicated that there is a lack of trust leading to concerns and confusion. Plus I knew people who died being denied coverage by Medicare, so the name itself is tainted for many. It probably should be called something like Healthcare for All.

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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 9 points 14 hours ago

The current two party system doesn't represent what the majority wants. Both parties work for the super wealthy. Until we get rid of the Democratic and Republican parties nothing good will happen.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 28 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Ok but now is not a good time to disarm

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 16 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

The working class must never disarm. Post jan 6th and George floydd and people still have yet to learn that no one will protect us but ourselves. How delusional of me to think anything will ever drive this point home in people's frightened minds.

It would be nice to have some reforms, but that's not what anti gun people want. They want everything. We could pass reforms and somebody will shoot up some gun free zone and people will be back to take more. It's a never ending circle that only stops at fully stripping the right to own a firearm completely. Some aren't even ashamed to admit it.

My body, my choice in how to protect it. Prisons are gun free, prisoners have very few rights. Yet rape / violence in prisons are a running joke everyone enjoys repeating. I will not be a prisoner.

Good luck to OP with their party but I want no part of it. Plus they aren't in favor of legalizing all drugs so you support the police state's right to continue to ruin lives and shoot people for fun with no repercussions. Not to mention the lives lost from tainted unregulated drugs of a unknown potency. Oh and nothing on replacing First-past-the-post voting so we can have more then two parties? Super hard pass. We'd only be 3-4 generations before the capitalist class captures this political party as well. If not less.

If only we could join a commune that best reflects each of our values. OP could be completely unarmed in their commune and mine would have nukes cause humans are psychotic hairless apes that only respect one thing. Overwhelming violence.

SocialistRA.org

[–] Ferus42@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago

So much this. I support nearly everything on this proposed new party's list except the gun control items. I seriously doubt only 27% of Americans own a gun. I know more than a few Democrats who own not just one, but multiple firearms. Including aSsAuLt rifles. And the 90% support for tougher gun laws? There has to be a very serious conversation about what that looks like.

As for a ceasefire for the war in Gaza... It's terrible so many innocent civilians are being killed, but Hamas started this most recent war. They are also well known to use civilians as human shields. Finally, they will never stop their attacks until Israel no longer exists. Even during the most recent ceasefire, Hamas was focused on building more weapons so they could continue their attacks: https://english.aawsat.com/features/5123487-what-are-hamas-military-options-gaza-war-resumes

According to the sources, Hamas' military wing had hoped the ceasefire would last longer, allowing it to resume producing rockets, explosive devices, and other weaponry. However, efforts were severely limited due to a shortage of raw materials.

The only way to truly "free Palestine" is to rid them of Hamas, or at least shift their focus to supporting their own people and governing Gaza instead of waging jihad.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago

70% couldn't ve bothered voting knowing it meant democracy's end

Good intentions are important Americans, but you cannot make the world a better place just by having good intentions and navel gazing

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Only a little more than half support Medicare for all? Is this a terminology issue, or are 45% of Americans that terrible?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 16 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Sadly there's this idea that Americans are being taxed to death, when in reality not so much.

People don't understand that while we'd pay maybe hundreds more in taxes to fund Single Payer, we'd pay THOUSANDS less in healthcare costs, so we still come out ahead

[–] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 14 hours ago

But I'm not sick or injured right now, so it won't benefit me at this exact second in time, so why would I want this?

Plus my unstable career, where I'm treated as a number rather than a human, is currently paying for my health insurance. So I don't need any government handouts thankyou very much.

Yeah, checkmate commie.

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[–] Necroscope0@lemm.ee 10 points 18 hours ago (7 children)

Our entire US system is set up to make it so that it is essentially (literally) impossible for a third party to win. This article gives a decent basic overview of why: https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4947662-why-a-third-party-presidential-candidate-can-never-win/

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[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

I'm not sold on this 3rd party idea. I think that's what it's going to take, but I dunno.

I just want a universal basic income, medicare for all, an end to trickle down economics, and everyone gets a free puppy or kitten. I don't think any 3rd party that supports of that would get traction because everyone who lacks empathy will make sure that doesn't happen.

[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago

This is a better platform than the Dems provided in 2024. Upvoted and cross-posted.

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] 5parky@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Yup. Vote for a turd taco or a shit sandwich. That's all we get the choice for anymore.

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