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We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. This—alongside the new Plex Pass pricing—will help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.

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[–] rekabis@programming.dev 1 points 1 minute ago

I don’t like it, but it’s a pragmatic decision.

Hosting for a simple website can be as little as a few bucks a month. That’s easy for any project to absorb, even if they are open-source with no one pulling a paycheque.

Streaming requires high-performance, high-bandwidth machines that cost anywhere from several dozen dollars to several hundred dollars a month. You build a resilient high-availability network, and you could easily be looking at several tens of thousands of dollars a month.

That isn’t easy to absorb, even for a for-profit company with clearly-defined revenue streams.

Some people want everything for free, but free doesn’t pay the bills.

Full disclosure: I don’t use the streaming feature. I prefer to grab actual copies to drop onto my NAS. I also don’t share to friends and family, as I am the only one I know of who uses Plex.

[–] profilelost@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 hours ago

I've been meaning to set up a homeserver with plex recently but will defnitely go for jellyfin now that I read this thread.

[–] mcbang2000@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

sometimes good software is worth paying for

[–] yallspark@lemmy.zip 3 points 25 minutes ago

Big facts. Even the FOSS software, I buy the premium or donate a bit to it. It only feels right. I couldn't imagine making something millions of people count on and not throw them SOMETHING. Especially when its such a good experience.

[–] aeharding@vger.social 2 points 44 minutes ago
[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 45 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

As a plex pass lifetime user, this doesn't change anything for me.

I am, however, blown away that the price went from $75 CDN to $350 CDN over the last 10 years!! That's just insane!

[–] Mendicant_Bias@feddit.uk 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure where you're getting that from, the article literally states the price hasn't changed in 10 years, and still hasn't, but it finally will on the 29th of April.

This tracks with my experience as it's probably been 10 years since I bought the lifetime pass and here in the UK it's often on sale for basically the same price (about £75 if I recall).

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Well, it was $75 CDN when i bought in 2012, it's $150-170 CDN now, and going up to $249 USD which converts to $358 CDN, so I'm assumong they'll round down to $350 or up to $360 CDN.

The conversion from USD to CDN kills it for us sadly. It's just such a huge jump this time. More than double on this bump.

[–] neclimdul@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago

Canada can just become the 51st state and solve that /s

[–] tane@lemm.ee 14 points 3 hours ago (7 children)

All these comments mentioning jellyfish and I haven’t see a single mention of emby. Is it considered bad or something? Because I switched over to it and I am liking it a lot better than plex so far

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago

I greatly prefer Emby to Jellyfin.

[–] ISolox@lemmy.world 2 points 47 minutes ago

I use Emby with the lifetime premier (their 'premium' version).

Works great, but honestly I would just point people to Jellyfin unless Emby provides something specific you need. I just use it because it's what I've had for years.

[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 36 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I believe emby went proprietary, and jellyfin is the fork that stayed open source. Naturally Lemmy prefers the FOSS one 😅

Yup, that's why I was on NextCloud, why I avoid MongoDB like the plague, and why I'm here on Lemmy (I justified Reddit because of their open API).

So yeah, that tracks.

[–] rdri@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Emby subscription costs a lot even if you just want to use it on a home server. It can work without subscription but will display a warning before playback. Jellyfin is free.

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[–] LoopingRiver@lemm.ee 15 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (3 children)

So I have a lifetime Plex pass, but my friend (who is remote) does not. Does this change mean they have the have a Plex pass to connect to my device remotely?

Edit: thanks for the info! After I posted I continued reading and realized that question was already answered! Appreciate the help!

[–] Mendicant_Bias@feddit.uk 4 points 2 hours ago

From reading the article, sounds like you're situation won't change.

[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 8 points 3 hours ago

Option 1: Remote playback with a Plex Pass

Upgrading to any Plex Pass subscription is a great option for server owners, as it ensures all users accessing the Plex Media Server can stream remotely, without an additional charge. Even if you don’t run your own Plex Media Server, a Plex Pass subscription will not only allow you to stream remotely from any server to which you have access, but also lets you make use of other Plex Pass functionality like Skip Intro and Skip Credits.

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[–] Old_Yharnam@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Would Tailscale/ZeroTier work as a workaround for this or do you think Plex would also put that behind a paywall?

[–] alienabductionsg@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 hour ago

Tailscale would definitely work for this as long as you use your home network as an exit node

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I dumped Plex years ago even though I paid for it. Too many issues with it. Constantly losing movie folders, unable to stream to the device I wanted to watch on, wrong codec, wrong sound, etc, etc. I gave up. I’m sure it worked fine for most, but it got to be a pain. Switched to Jellyfin and a DDNS address and have had zero problems since. And it’s free.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 68 points 5 hours ago (24 children)

If you don't like the price there's always jellyfin.

Got to say that I have been very happy with it.

[–] ghost@feddit.org 14 points 3 hours ago

Jellyfin is just so much better, imo. Much cleaner, less stuff that I don’t actually need.

I'm a plex pass lifetime owner, but I don’t regret switching to Jellyfin one bit.

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[–] Majestic@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Jellyfin needs to partner with someone people can pay a very low and reasonable and/or one-time fee to enable remote streaming without the fuss of setting up either dangerous port-forwarding or the complexity of reverse proxies (paying for a domain-name, the set-up itself including certificates, keeping it updated for security purposes).

And no a VPN is not a solution, the difficulty for non-technical users in setting up a VPN (if it's even possible, on smart-tvs it's almost always not, and I don't think devices like AppleTV and other streaming boxes often support them) is too high and it's an unwanted annoyance even for technical users.

I'm not talking about streaming video's through someone else's servers or using their bandwidth. I'm talking about the connection phase of clients and servers where Plex acts like an enhanced dynamic DNS service with authentication. They have an agent on the local media server which sends to the remote web service of the third party the IP address, the port configured for use, the account or server name, etc. When a client tries to connect they go to this remote web service with the servername/username info, the web service authenticates them then gives them the current IP address and any other information necessary. It then sends some data to the local Jellyfin server about the connecting client to enable that connection and then the local media Jellyfin server and the client talk directly and stream directly.

Importantly the cost of running this authentication and IP address tracking scheme would be minimal per Jellyfin server. You could charge $5/year for up to 20 unique remote clients and come out ahead with a slight profit which could be put back into Jellyfin development and things like their own hosting costs for code, etc. Even better if they offer lifetime for this at $60-$80 they'd get a decent chunk of cash up-front to use for development (with reasonable use restrictions per account so someone hosting stuff in Hetzner or whatever and serving 300 people with 400 devices will need to pay more because they're clearly doing this for profit and can afford to throw some more money at Jellyfin).

Until Jellyfin offers something that JUST WORKS like that it's not going to be a replacement for Plex, whatever other improvements they offer to users it's still a burden for the server runner to set up remote streaming in a way that isn't either incredibly dangerous (port forwarding) OR either involves paying money to third parties AND/OR the trouble of running your own reverse proxy and/or involves walking users through complicated set-up process for each device that you have to repeat if you change anything major like your domain name when using a VPN.

[–] Old_Yharnam@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Umm AppleTV has a Tailscale app and it's dead simple to set up, so I would argue that it is a solution.

[–] anon593839@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

That's what I do. Jellyfin + Tailscale + Apple TV box. It works like a charm.

[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Authelia maybe?

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