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[–] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Guess I've been living under a rock or something because I had to look up what 1488 meant.
I still don't fully understand though... Is this something that a lot of people recognise as a nazi / white supremacist symbol, or is it more of a niche reference?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

They say it to each other as a greeting, usually they just say 88. Another great one is TTMFBBTT, which means they are Aryan Brotherhood members "til the motherfucking body bag toe tag". Or they say "wood wood", which is short for either peckerwoods or feather woods, which is a male and female AB member.

The Klan say KIGY, AKIA, and KLASP.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

In the US it may be more popular. I only know about 88 or 18 for HH or AH.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 51 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Gee, I wonder if Aryansoldier1488 knows if 1488 is a dog whistle for Nazis? I'd hate for Aryansoldier to get caught up in this. It was probably a random number.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Poor guy was probably just born on 1/4/1988 and his real name is just Ayra N Soldier. People these days just call everybody a Nazi smh /s

[–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago

As a radical centrist, I must find any possible reason that someone would stick an obvious dogwhistle in their name besides being a Nazi. We can't just go assuming the blatantly obvious.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

His name is really just Ryan Adams Soldier

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Maybe he could switch to ASoldierNamedRyan

[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

Don't give them ideas.

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I do feel bad for people born in the year 1488 though, their usernames look really suspicious.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I feel bad for the Jewish rabbi, Joseph ben Ephraim Karo

JosephKaro1488 was his gamertag

(He was actually born in 1488 lol)

[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago

Ma boi Yosef, I don't see him play anymore

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

These people probably feel so ashamed they can't even look at themselves in the mirror.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The whole number or just the 88? I learned about 88 in high school because I questioned why all the racist kids wore it.

Edit: I just noticed the rest of his name. Hooboy. lol

[–] considine@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

88 is a lucky number in Vietnam. You'll see Vietnamese restaurants use 88 in their name sometimes.

Different cultures, different meanings. Not that Nazis are a culture. They are distinctly uncultured.

[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The swastika was also appropriated by the Nazis. In Indian cultures, it is a symbol of blessings and prosperity. You still won't catch me sporting that shit anywhere.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

"Aryans" originally referred to Indo-Iranians but guesd what Nazis did to the term

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[–] Bubs12@lemm.ee 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The 14 refers to “The Fourteen Words”

“We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children”

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's funny because it's hardly an inspiring or memorable 14 word sentence. It's just awkward and clunky.

Like, why "secure"? Why not "safeguard" or "defend"? IMO those are stronger, more emotionally resonant words.

And why "existence"? Why not something stronger like "survival" or something more than survival like "prosperity"?

And just "a future" for white children? Not "a glorious future" or "a triumphant future"?

And, why "white children"? Not the white race?

Also, how is "a future for white children" distinct from "the existence of our people"? Are white children distinct from "our people"?

I could get it if it were framed as: we must defend our survival now so that our children can prosper. In that case you're saying that the present might be tough but the future will be bright. But they're not painting the future as bright, just "a future", which is really the same as an "existence" so it's basically saying "Our people must survive and so must our children, who are also our people, but smaller."

Like, they memorized the first draft of some dumb saying and revere it as "the 14 words", but it's just badly written, nevermind all the racism.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

"Secure" doesn't just mean "defend" or "safeguard". "Secure" also means "capture", so it implies you need to go out and get it, like with invasions or something maybe, idk. It's a lot less passive.

"Existence" means both "survival" and "prosperity". It implies that both their existence is under threat, while creating the idea that they might be able to make it better. Maybe they could, idk, make america great again, trying to return to some mythical prelapsarian era by beating back the eternal threat.

"A future" does this too, implying they may not have a future at all.

And talking about the "children" brings up the concept of making new people, evoking the idea that non-white races are out-breeding them. It also includes the common "think of the children" idea.

And finally the fact that it's short and boring comes from the fact that nazis are uninspiring and uninspired, and they need a simple, to the point slogan to repeat without thinking about it too hard. They certainly know how to make a message concise, even at the cost of saying almost nothing of meaning when you think too hard about it.

All of this is classic fascism.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's the same tactic as the "It's OK to be white" or "White lives matter" slogans, but more clever because it leaves enough ambiguity such that just about anything can be justified under it. It mentions children to come across as more innocent and to implicitly accuse the opposition of endangering children (also playing into LGBT scaremongering, with the Nazis using the same tropes they use today). "Think of the children!" is a common and effective propaganda line.

Saying "future" instead of "glorious future" suggests that the children wouldn't have a future at all otherwise. That the white race is under attack and is otherwise on track to be eliminated by Jews and communists and so forth. It's harder to justify atrocities in the name of "a glorious future" vs "a regular future" as opposed to "a regular future" vs "we are completely exterminated ourselves."

It is, of course, bullshit, because it's literally Nazi propaganda trying to frame them as on the "defensive," but it is carefully and intelligently crafted propaganda. It's important to understand the enemy and their approaches in order to better counter their movements and defeat them, they should not be underestimated.

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[–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Secure" also has the meaning of taking something with great difficulty, not simply defending. It's a threat. All the rest is just using catastrophic/severe language to lure in followers to their cause.

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

This reminds me of an anecdote talking about language differences between the US armed services:

If you told a Marine to secure a building, they would kick the door in and take control of the building.

If you told a soldier in the Army to secure a building, they would set up a fence around it and establish a sentry.

If you told a Navy sailor to secure a building, they'd turn off all the lights and close and lock the door on their way out.

If you told an Airforce airman to secure a building, they would write up a purchasing contract.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago

It's like the kind of shit 11 year olds come up with FFS.

"Just warning you that GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY SERVER" ban

[–] Oka@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

Shoutout to DarkViperAU (formerly DarkViper88, because of birth year)

[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 236 points 2 days ago (32 children)

Whoever took this screenshot is the user with that Discord name

[–] kane@femboys.biz 63 points 2 days ago
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[–] NovaOG@lemm.ee 72 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What do we call a Discord that allows nazis in it? A Nazi Discord.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

Well, now that Discord is going public, we can probably just call it Discord.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Considering the avatar, there's like a non-zero chance it's one nazi telling another.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

No he’s just from Iran who likes the third unification of Iran he’s just off by twenty years.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Nathan Higgers, born 13 January, 1988:

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[–] spicystraw@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Seriously, I didn't see the name until after I read the comments. I got totally tricked; good job!

[–] josefo@leminal.space 24 points 1 day ago (8 children)

It has Aryan Soldier in the name and they are worried about 1488 lol, this is a good one.

[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 51 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Thank you for explaining the punch line

You must be fun at parties

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They might be fun at parties, you don't know them.

[–] josefo@leminal.space 8 points 1 day ago

Matter of fact I am. Also, I don't know him.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago

That's a train whistle.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago

That's good looking out.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I hope he gets messaged every hour about how his name might draw the wrong crowd.

Also that he needs to take pills for a bigger penis.

ETA: And that he might be able to profit from Nigerian princes needing some money laundered through the United States.

Also he should try EA's FIFA offerings... okay, I'm getting carried away. No one deserves that.

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