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[–] Schmuppes@lemmy.today 14 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

Mengele vibes right there.

[–] Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That borders on Holocaust denial to even try and compare the two

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[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 66 points 1 day ago (21 children)

Is nobody concerned that illegal experiments on babies only gets you 3 years?

Maybe they were Uyghurs so it was classified as "property damage" in Chinese law.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The devil is in the details....

You are likely thinking (as I am) that he implanted robotic arms on babies but he may have just rubbed sage oil on them for all we know

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

He used CRISPR to make babies immune to HIV.

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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 day ago (10 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_Jiankui_affair

Laws were changed after this incident:

In 2020, the National People's Congress of China passed Civil Code and an amendment to Criminal Law that prohibit human gene editing and cloning with no exceptions

So, in case you actually meant that weird ignorant remark you made about Uyghurs, the answer is no and no.

[–] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh shit someone tell the ~~fascist scum~~ liberal toads that its actually blue on blue, this guy was working for a honky kong universty!!!

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

Lemmitors downvoting you because actually learning about the case conflicts with their "cHiNa BaD" circlejerk.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Be careful, you might get banned from lemmy dot ml for hatespeech against dictatorships.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 7 points 23 hours ago

It's literal misinformation, so it probably should be removed, yes.

[–] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 day ago

Hong kongs a dictatorship? You know, the place this doctor was working?

Well observed, its been an apartheid state since its inception as a colony to the UK.

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[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Depends how successful the experiment is (and probably on what the goal is as well).

If he'd been testing the effects of grass vs grain feed on human fat marbling, I'd imagine the sentence would have been a little more severe

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[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think he does it ironically tbh, his posts are all over the place, from making fun of Europe for regulating everything to then saying that gene editing should be regulated by international laws to then saying ethics are holding back humanity, then just saying he loves austin texas, then stating that he will not develop bio weapons lmao.

Stanford cup and CPC flag, he does have a sense of humour tbh.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 168 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If a person's criticism is of "ethics" in general, that individual should not be allowed in a position of authority or trust. If you have a specific constraint for which you can make a case that it goes too far and hinders responsible science and growth (and would have repeatable, reliable results), then state the specific point clearly and the arguments in your favor.

[–] neatobuilds@lemmy.today 70 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So if we put these extra pair of legs on babies then they can stand in more extreme angles making them better at construction at a time when there is a housing shortage

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 17 points 1 day ago

For acceptance in the US we will also add more hands so the baby can hold an AR 15 while doing construction work.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I am convinced, I vote to allow it.

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[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago (5 children)

And we already have a safety valve for when conventional ethics is standing in the way of vital research: the researchers test on themselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-experimentation_in_medicine

If it's that vital, surely you would do it to yourself?

It's not terribly common because most useful research is perfectly ethical, but we have a good number of cases of researchers deciding that there's no way for someone to ethically volunteer for what they need to do, so they do it to themselves. Sometimes they die. Sometimes they make very valuable discoveries. Sometimes both.

So the next time someone wantz to strap someone to a rocket engine and fire it into a wall, all they have to do is go first and be part of the testing pool.

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[–] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

wait he's not a fucking parody account?? i thought he was like. larping as an umbrella corp researcher

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nah, I'm pretty sure that's the dude that used crispr on some babies years ago in an attempt to make them immune to HIV or something.

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[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wasn't he the guy who was trying to find a way for HIV-positive couples to have HIV-negative babies?

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[–] hikuro93@lemmy.ca 73 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Ironic thing, we already tried this approach multiple times before, specially on war times. And each time humanity concluded that some knowledge has too high a price and we're better off not finding out some things.

Knowledge for the sake of knowledge, especially with a heavy blood cost, isn't the way to progress as a species.

And I should know, as a person greatly defined by curiosity about everything and more limited emotional capacity than other people due to mental limitations.

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you're talking about unit 731 and the nazis then there was very little, if anything, scientifically valuable there.

They had terrible research methodology that rendered what data they gathered mostly useless, and even if it wasn't, most of the information could have been surmised by other methods. Some of the things they did served no conceivable practical or scientific purpose whatsoever.

It was pretty much just sadism with a thin veneer of justification to buy them the small amount of legitimacy they needed to operate within their fascist governments.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Everyone keeps leaning on Unit 731 and the Nazis here.

What about Tuskegee and syphillis? What about the way that Huvasupai Indians blood was tested without their consent?

“Fun” fact - the chainsaw was developed to help with child birth. Lots of early US gynecology research was done on enslaved women without pain control.

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