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[–] needanke@feddit.org 3 points 2 hours ago

If you want a nicer looking (though less feature complete) app I can really recommend Lissen.

[–] picnic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 hours ago

Nice.

I was paying for a family subscription for a major audiobook provider for a while. That changed after I used a 3rd party app to listen to their audiobooks and apparently broke their eula, and they were threatening to sue me and my 7 year old kid for it. Kinda killed the spirit to pay for their service.

[–] jagged_circle 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Anyone does this with jellyfin?

[–] picnic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

Doesn't work, I feel. I've been looking at alternatives, gonna take a look at this audiobookshelf now.

[–] Katzimir@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 hours ago

Ive tried for a wile, but the features are just lacking. Finamp is good for music now. But for audiobook i am firm on audiobookshelf.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 59 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Shoutout to Libation, that allows you to download and deDRM your Audible library.

https://github.com/rmcrackan/Libation

[–] suite403@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago
[–] Bacano@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Thank you for this

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

Oooooo, but there be dragons.

Documentation? Yer lookin' at it This is a single-developer personal passion project. Support, response, updates, enhancements, bug fixes etc are as my free time allows I have a full-time job, a life, and a finite attention span. Therefore a lot of time can potentially go by with no improvements of any kind

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 3 points 4 hours ago

You don't really need much documentation. You set it up on windows once, which is pretty intuitive and then you copy the config to your server and run it headless. It pulls your library in fixed intervals. I haven't touched it once in the year it is running now

[–] IsoSpandy@lemm.ee 16 points 7 hours ago

Actually good for the developer. He is doing it out of his passion and faith in OSS. What more should we want of him? The dude is already a hero.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 20 points 9 hours ago

It's good they put it up front though. There can be a lot of entitlement with oss users sometimes and setting expectations can help alleviate that.

[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

It works now, even if later he gets tired of it and walks away it still works now.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

I actually used a Windows app, de audible I think to get all mine out years ago. But I am always glad to see alternatives.

[–] karpintero@lemmy.world 63 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

In addition to self-hosting, I'll throw out a few other alternatives:

Free:

Paid:

  • For a user experience closer to Audible, I went with libro.fm. You can pick a local, independent bookstore that gets a portion of the sales. Their catalog is pretty extensive as well, have been able to find most books I'm interested in. Books are DRM-free and you can pause your membership.
  • Downpour - DRM-free as well

DRM-free is important IMO because otherwise you're at the mercy of the platform and if the company ever changes its Terms of Use or wipes your account, you lose your purchases. Amazon have remotely deleted books from users' libraries in the past or replaced them with modified copies (e.g. Roald Dahl books). Kindle announced last month they won't let you download your eBooks via USB so it's possible Audible could see changes for the worse in the future as well.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 20 points 13 hours ago

I always mention whenever I see libro.fm brought up: if you don't have a local store you want to support for whatever reasons, Firestorm in Asheville, North Carolina is a fantastic refuge for the local queer community, it's a worker cooperative, and they're struggling to survive. Please consider them if there isn't another local place in your own community. With the big book stores and then Amazon, a lot of communities don't have a physical local shop anymore, so if someone has a plug for their local, I think it's worth making on these kinds of threads.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Unfortunately my local library only keeps like 3 copies of each book and they're already rented for eternity.

[–] jagged_circle 0 points 4 hours ago

The etiquette is to check it out, download it, and then return it within an hour.

What jerks are members at your library?

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[–] RedDog@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 hours ago

Nice article! I've been using Audiobookshelf (win) for a year and a bit. Works great with one exception, I can't upgrade it past 2.17.16 on my Win11 box (non-docker). Any attempt to take it past that gives a non-responsive server. Not a big deal because that version is pretty stable.

[–] UndulyUnruly@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

For those on iOS looking for a companion app, check out plappa for a great app to access your Audiobookshelf/jellyfin instance. It works flawlessly for me, no data collection, and it allows downloading books in advance for on the go if you choose not to have external access to your server.

https://plappa.me/

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 7 points 10 hours ago

For any other Audiobookshelf users looking at that article and thinking, "Wait, how did they get that nice wooden shelf look in the UI?"

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[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

My wife likes murders and romance, any suggestions for eBook?

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Like where to find them?

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

What I really want is a a similar project for epub files. I’ve not been able to find a web based library that allows easy download and auth based management.

[–] dingdongitsabear@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

jellyfin with OPDS plugin. you can get download books directly from any OPDS compatible reader (Koreader, Moonreader+, etc)

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

That's a solved problem, the answer is Calibre. If you want a nicer interface and some other fluff you can install calibre-web as a frontend for it. Calibre-web is very interesting if you have a Kobo e-reader because you can configure it as your store and get the books you add to calibre to magically appear on the e-reader with a nice download button next to it.

[–] hangonasecond@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Audiobookshelf supports EPUB files and other ebook formats. You can put them alongside audiobooks (offering a UI option to either read or listen) or use purely ebooks although obviously a little overkill if you aren't using the audio features at all

[–] sanglyon@jlai.lu 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I use Calibre to manage my librairy on my NAS, and COPS (https://github.com/seblucas/cops) to access it from anywhere. COPS just read the Calibre database saved on the NAS, and displays it as a self-hosted web site with all categories (authors, ratings, languages,...) and download links.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

Oooo thank you for this. I already use Calibre but their web offering is imho kinda bad. This looks like it’s pretty much a drop in solution to my problem. If I throw it behind a zero trust page I can even open it up to the open internet.

Thank you for this!

[–] Deello@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

Have you tried Calibre?

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 15 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (7 children)

I love Audiobookshelf, my main complaint is the Android app crashes when killed by Android (so when I try to open it I get a message about it crashing and then have to reopen it). That might just be a me thing.

I used the tool Libation to download my Audible books. There was a Firefox extension to download audiobooks from Libby but it's no longer working because Libby changed something and the dev didn't have time to fight the battle, anyone have a good solution to that?

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 9 points 14 hours ago (8 children)

I love Audiobookshelf, my main complaint is the Android app crashes when killed by Android (so when I try to open it I get a message about it crashing and then have to reopen it). That might just be a me thing.

Hmm, I've been using Audiobookshelf on my Android phone(s) for at least the last year without issues like that. Are you using the F-droid or Play Store version? I'm using F-droid if that matters.

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (8 children)

Yes, I am aware of where this is posted and am prepared for my inevitable crucifixion as a result. But, like, is this really a problem that requires a self hosting solution? That seems like quite the overcomplication to me unless you absolutely require access to your entire selection on multiple devices that will have 24/7 network connections.

MP3's take up negligible amounts of storage space on modern devices and can be played on anything, and can be easily taken with you anywhere including out of network range.

I guess teaching people how to drag-and-drop audio files onto their phone and open them with VLC would be a much shorter article.

[–] enemenemu@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago

I've got 128GB on my phone and instead of compressing images and videos to 480p I sync them to my server with immich. Same for music and movies.

I only store the apps and local info on my device. Everything that has to be stored long term sits on a cheap hdd. I can select the audiobook whenever I want to instead of in advance.

[–] jagged_circle 3 points 4 hours ago

Its nice to share with others

[–] Zeoic@lemmy.world 21 points 11 hours ago

Yeeeah, gonna have to disagree with that. Having dead simple access to your library on any device is amazing. ABS syncs your listening position between devices, has offline downloading, supports rich metadata, collections, customized sleep timers, and quite a bit more.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

MP3s do not show artwork or keep your place, and they don't sync across devices.

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[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 11 points 12 hours ago

Mostly agree. Audiobooks are not my thing, but of it were - I'd look for a way to resume where I left off, maybe some recommendation on what to listen to next.

In general - once you're into hosting stuff and past the initial barrier of setting everything up - adding another service is dead simple.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Yup. Audio books aren't very big once converted to a reasonable format and with the amount of space these days, I can comfortably keep a dozen on me at all times.

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