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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 69 points 2 days ago (5 children)

This is why talking about things like government services just wash over conservatives. I was talking about transit and a common reply I get is "it's not even profitable!". It's intrinsically linked that if it doesn't make money, it's valueless.. it doesn't matter if people use it, or if people need it, if it breaks even, or even if it's designed to run at a slight loss because it's value is more important than profit. People have lost the ability to understand that profit is not always the goal.

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[–] notheotherguy95@lemmy.world 80 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Capital has the ability to subsume all critiques into itself. Even those who would 'critique' capital end up 'reinforcing' it instead..."

[–] nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago

very true detective

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well it can't commodify me! Oh wait.

Sorry, I got myself worked up.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

do you sell your labor on the job market?

[–] CorvidShaman@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not the greatest dude, but had a sick quote that sums up this post:

"The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them" - Vladimir Lenin

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[–] hertg@infosec.pub 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"A film like Wall-E exemplifies what Robert Pfaller has called 'interpassivity': the film performs our anti-capitalism for us, allowing us to continue to consume with impunity. The role of capitalist ideology is not to make an explicit case for something in the way that propaganda does, but to conceal the fact that the operations of capital do not depend on any sort of subjectively assumed belief. It is impossible to conceive of fascism or Stalinism without propaganda - capitalism can proceed perfectly well, in some ways better, without anyone making a case for it."

-- Capitalist Realism, Mark Fisher

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[–] Offandonandoffagain@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Create a problem then sell the solution. Simple as

[–] seeigel@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sell the revolution.

How much would people pay for communism, how much for other forms of government?

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If a system needs constant growth to survive it will eventually collapse.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Finally YOLO makes sense. Yes, capitalism indeed only lives once. It will have its lifetime, and then it will collapse and be done with. It will not come back, it will not be reborn.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

So long as we stick with our distinctions of "Mine" and "Thine", we will fall into a different sort of capitalism later down the road. In order to keep it away we need to stop looking at wealth as a virtue, but as something to give away.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Infinite growth in a finite system is the definition of cancer. And like a cancer it will keep poisoning us, and must be cut out and eradicated.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Capitalism made a treatment for the cancer.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is why I became comfort not owning things

[–] the_q@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Jokes on you, capitalism made you not want things!

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[–] wiLD0@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

When you commodify all the people’s wants and needs, you commodify the people.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Or, to look at it the other way round:

When you commodify people, you will commodify all their wants and needs.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

What are we to them capitalists but (wage) slaves?

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[–] Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (5 children)

How do you fight against it?

[–] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Buy my anti-capitalism book

[–] humiddragonslayer@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And my anti-capitalism axe

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

They're taking the hobbits to IPO! To IPO! To IPO!

Tell me, where is Gandalf, for I much desire to speak with him.

"A stock exchange of Mordor...."

[–] Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Wait. Before you read their anti-capitalism book, you need to read my 'How to Read Anti-capitalism Books' book. If you act quickly we can get a BOGO offer with both books for only 3 easy payments of $19.95.

[–] anamethatisnt@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

On a larger scale? Through organizing and engaging in communities, politics and unions. No one can stop it alone.

On a personal scale?
Stop consuming more than you need. Maintain what you already own. Don't buy it because it's better than what you have, if what you have is already good enough. Buy second hand when you can. Lend and loan with friends when it comes to seldomly used tools.

Buy maintainable stuff instead of the cheap copy that has no repairability (Think of the boots theory and don't get tricked into spending more in the long term just to spend less now).

And the hardest bit would be to stop comparing yourself and your life with that of those around you, I think that the rat race is the main driver of consumption together with all that wealth peacocking.

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well put! And please go vegan. Exploiting and murdering sentient beings by the billions in an industry too gruesome to look at because you are accustomed to a taste is peak capitalist cynicism.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 20 hours ago

I rely too much on meat for protein with my autoimmune disease (can't eat a lot of plant-based proteins). That being said, the moment they start padding ground meat with bugmeal, or better yet lab grown meat, hits store shelves I'll be happy to pay extra for that.

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My personal take:
No thanks! is the most powerful thing you can say. Don't engage, stop buying endless toys and distractions, build a local community, hang out with real people in reality, share stuff and be kind. Maybe blow up a pipeline too.

Edit: I didn't see the comment below, it's much better!

depends on where you live

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[–] seeigel@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

When capitalism has commodified everything, then all ingrediences for a revolution can be bought.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

See how in the US we wait to potty train until 3,4,5 years old, while most other countries potty train earlier. Gotta sell those pull-ups!

[–] vic_rattlehead@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

What? No we don't.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who does that? Most kids are potty trained by 3

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

i see 18 months, not 3 years.

6 months is absurd. Do you have children?

0% at 4 years; so I’m curious where “3,4,5” came from.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

His claim was about the age at which potty training was successfully completed. Your chart is about the age at which potty training started. They're not comparable unless you provide some additional data about how long the training takes.

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