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[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 17 minutes ago

"But capitalism is so efficient at growing!"

Yeah, but now capitalism has grown out of control:

meta-capitalist game show idea:

you could do this in about any format. video, podcast, maybe even sets of still images.

The core concept is a bunch of ad reads for your sponsors. the sponsors are the contestants.

you use really good production values, but you get progressively edgier and more hostile to them as the season goes on. the prize is a free ad campaign for the last one to drop out/denounce you.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)

minimalism is so funny to me.

Like you're buying shit so you can not buy things? Yeah ok buddy.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 12 minutes ago

That is fake minimalism. Minimalism in practice is donating stuff you don't need and not buying stuff unless you truly need it and will use it.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

This ties into the notion of interpassivity. This is when a piece of media perform an action for you (think interactivity, but exactly the opposite). An example is the laugh track on sitcoms. Another is the series or film performing your environmental or anti-capital activism for you. Frequently the bad guy is some big polluting corp, or some evil rich guy who wants to bulldoze the community center to put his Luxury Resort there. You watch the movie, feel all rebellious and sympathetic with the main characters, and go home feeling like you've done something, when in fact all you've done is feed Disney some more money. See also movies like triangle of sadness and the glass onion or whatever.

Mark Fischer's capitalist realism explores this and similar ideas in a much more comprehensive and eloquent manner than I ever could. Give it a read, it's quite short!

[–] espressdelivery@lemm.ee 5 points 7 hours ago

I’ve been really interested in learning how to grow vegetables in my back garden. Somehow I just have this feeling that learning how to care about plants to make food (and not just because it flowers and looks pretty) will open my eyes to thinking about nature and the environment

At the moment, climate collapse is a conceptual issue to me in that “sure the days get warmer every year but it’s actually quite nice for me right now”, but I’m not as in tune with my environment to really notice how it’s impacting us.

Growing veg also feels like it has a higher pay off than just the cost price of a single unit of veg. There’s probably some nutritional benefit to it, knowledge etc that does beyond the price of buying an onion from the shop. I think getting in touch with this principle is the key to getting out of the ruthless capitalism structure

Basically, if we all just stopped buying shit and learnt how to fix and make shit ourselves our experiences of the things we attach ourselves to would be so much more authentic

You don’t have to buy doc martens because you feel like a rebel.

[–] geissi@feddit.org 3 points 7 hours ago

Punk Rock itself is not a product of capitalism.
Album and ticket sales are.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

"Oh, you're expecting capitalism to collapse into anarchy? Better BUY lots of food and antibiotics to stockpile for the collapse!"

Grinch smirk

[–] henry1917@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

Kid named Guy Debord:

[–] match@pawb.social 20 points 20 hours ago

don't buy into the illusion that capitalism is so self-organizing and organic. it requires the direct protection and supervision of a nationwide military and a police force -multiple police forces actually - to protect capital.

[–] BobTheDestroyer@lemm.ee 14 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Well, things would exist whether you're in a capitalist economic system or not. People would make music and label their genre. People would write books and want to sell them. The real difference is who gets the profits.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 hours ago

Sure, sort of. Commodity production, ie the production of goods purely in order to sell and make a profit, likely won't last forever, especially as the rate of profit trends towards 0.

[–] HeurtisticAlgorithm9@feddit.uk 0 points 7 hours ago

I mean without capitalism they wouldn't have the concept of selling, so probably not.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 7 points 21 hours ago

It's also how driven the profits are. All the choices on the way, are they directed for maximum profit or for good. And many things that are made didn't need to be made, and wouldn't if people didn't care to buy them. The effort instead could have gone into good things.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Well it can't commodify me! Oh wait.

Sorry, I got myself worked up.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

do you sell your labor on the job market?

[–] snf@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The Black Mirror episode "Fifteen Million Merits" makes this point in a (typically) very chilling way.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 hour ago

Imagine watching that episode then going to a desk/office/cubicle job 5 days a week without going insane. Must take a shit ton of cognitive dissonance and shamelessness to voluntarily work for capitalists.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] CumBroth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 hours ago

Certified Mark Fisher moment.

[–] RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I haven't played it, but is this disco elesium?

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 7 points 17 hours ago
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