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[–] cdkg@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Steve jobs ain't a genius. He was just a good salesman.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 2 points 1 hour ago

The sales people almost always end up doing well in companies. And then when they get high up in the company they only value others ability to make sales and work for bonuses. As time goes on a company's e-suite gets more and more saturated with charismatic dummies who will do anything for a buck, leaving less room for good administrators and engineers.

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

where’s the lie?

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 47 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

He tried to fight P.C. with apples.

[–] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Jesus Christ. That is fucking poetry.

[–] narfer@lemm.ee 12 points 6 hours ago

This 😂. A fucking genius choosing pseudoscience...

[–] LucidLyes@lemmy.world 37 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Jobs paved the way for Musk. I hate that he's so often cited as a genius to look up to in the tech world

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

The behind the bastards episodes on Jobs was really eye-opening to just how awful of a leader he was

[–] einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.works 21 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

People mistaking Marketing people for tech genies happens to often.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 hours ago

I find it really amusing to know Bill Gates ones made fun of him:

"Steve's achievements are all the more impressive when you know that he couldn't look at a piece of code and know what it was."

However he also said:

"Clearly, he had so many skills that I didn't, but we were both a little bit pied pipers in terms of getting people to work ridiculous hours."

Which really should tell you everything you need to know given who made the money and how many people were made to work "ridiculous hours".

[–] wieson@feddit.org 29 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Back on the old site on one of those text based subreddits there was a question posted:

Would you rather have free WiFi wherever you go, or any apple product you wish at any time.

My (then unrotted) brain was like: mmh WiFi everywhere is good, but apple cake, apple pie, apple sauce, apple spritz, apple cider, apple strudel, dried apples... Yeah I'm going with apple products

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Wifi might become obsolete some time in the future, but apple pie is eternal.

[–] Slovene 4 points 21 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 8 minutes ago

Apple cream pie

[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 43 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Also bought his way up the organ donor list even after he took so long ignoring it, passing over a bunch of people who should have had claim to it and some who died instead, all just so he could die anyway because he took too long to get treatment. Failed so hard multiple people died.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Source on this? I read that Tim Apple offered a donation and Steve refused. I have not read that he had the surgery.

[–] Sporkbomber@lemm.ee 1 points 6 minutes ago

He did get a transplant, in TN. Not in CA where he lived. He used his wealth to add himself to a areas with more donors and fewer on the wait list because he could hop on a jet unlike normal plebians.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 23 points 9 hours ago

You can literally just look on Wikipedia. Tim cook offered part of his, jobs said "nah I want a whole one from some poor person" and the rest is history.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 47 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Being rich makes you so divorced from consequences that you start to believe that what is in your brain is what is real. Money isn't what we think it is.

[–] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Money is like radioactive material. Having a little bit in your house probably is fine but having a mountain of it will make you hole up in a Las Vegas hotel with tissue boxes for shoes

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 4 points 9 hours ago

Or you can become president

[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 hours ago

These words resonate so hard with me that my head is ringing like a bell right now. “Money isn’t what we think it is.” ^5, you.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The truth of genius is its only momentary and usually highly specific.

[–] ScoobyDope@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Except for Euler. That guy was on a hot streak for his entire life.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 1 hour ago

Ramanujan did pretty good, just died young.

[–] UniversalMonk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Well they do sorta have a point. Even Jobs said he shouldn't have ignored treatment for so long.

[–] Classy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The view from halfway down

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 58 minutes ago

Toes untouch the overpass soon he’s water-bound. Eyes locked shut but peek to see the view from halfway down.

A little wind, a summer sun a river rich and regal. A flood of fond endorphins brings a calm that knows no equal.

You’re flying now, you see things much more clear than from the ground. It's all okay, or it would be were you not now halfway down.

Thrash to break from gravity what now could slow the drop? All I’d give for toes to touch the safety back at top.

But this is it, the deed is done silence drowns the sound. Before I leaped I should've seen the view from halfway down.

I really should’ve thought about the view from halfway down. I wish I could've known about the view from halfway down—

-- "The view from halfway down" by Alison Tafel (excerpted)

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 39 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Only fanboys. The same kind that worship Musk or any other fellated-by-the-press CEO as some kind of hero. They softball any criticisms and turn them into positives - “He murdered a bunch of kids, but the creativity he got from the blood splatter and time spent in court-ordered community service got us this addictive device we’re all fawning over…let’s justify the ridiculous price and wait in line for one!” Something about objectively shitty people heading up organizations seems to attract sycophants and bootlickers.

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[–] Tiger_Man_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 99 points 16 hours ago (4 children)
[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 19 points 10 hours ago

Not to mention the actual pioneer of generic-text languages, the inventor of the compiler, Grace Hopper.

https://www.biography.com/scientist/grace-hopper

I highly doubt the consequences of Dennis Richie not existing. Yes, his work was foundational, but he didn't do it on his own, and if he wasn't around, someone else would've filled in.

The same is true for Steve Jobs. In fact, most of his contribution was being a jerk to people so his ideas won. He had a clear vision, but his internal implementation was... iffy.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 12 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

My crusading teenage ass posted this in 2011 on social media. Nobody cared lol

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[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 16 hours ago (10 children)

I mean, fucking up is a common thing people do and is an integral part of the human condition. What should be emphasized about Jobs case is that he fucked up his own liver, learned the cause and treatments, used his wealth to cut in the waiting line to get a liver transplant, and then fucked his second liver just the same way. This is the definition of terminally stupid, and no UX focus will ever change that.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

It's unfortunate because his leadership / sense of taste is what made Apple a powerhouse. Under Tim Apple, the software has languished. They're great at hardware and the software is far from great. What a shame.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

"leadership" by which you mean being abusive to his colleagues and refusing to take a shower.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 7 hours ago

He was a dick, but he had a good mind for products. He wasn't infallible, but he had a sense of taste that was useful in driving others who had greater skills than he.

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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Eh, I feel like Jobs was in charge when he could create new products.

Outside of a different Apple Watch launch, I don't see Jobs really having the ability to create new innovative products.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

Yeah computers were doubling in speed every 18 months back then. And there were competing products oftentimes years before Apple put out their version. Apple primarily put a lot of polish onto the technological innovations that were happening at the time.

Don't get me wrong polish is really important. Apple didn't invent the MP3 player or the smartphone. But the MP3 players before the iPod were really fiddley and janky. BlackBerries had a downright primitive look and feel next to an iPhone.

Also marketing... a lot of people didn't know MP3 players existed until they saw advertisements for the iPod.

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