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[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 42 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

My uncle, from the time he was a little boy, liked nothing more than farming and gardening. He has one friend and they talk exclusively about growing stuff. He had to be forced to finish high school because all he wanted to do was wrench on a tractor. He barely talks unless it's farming related.

He apparently takes after other men in the family, always one or two per generation, who were pretty much mute except when it came to their special interest. And they were 100% focused on their special interest.

Back in the day, it was "Uncle Bob just has those family genes. We get one of them every once in a while. He sure is a helluva good farmer." Today he would be diagnosed with autism.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 25 points 15 hours ago

Your uncle sounds awesome.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 26 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I took one of those autism tests and I can't remember off the top of my head what the score was but it was very high which both surprises and doesn't surprise me. I mask extremely well according to most people I meet. Telling me "You seem normal" or even "You aren't autistic".

I've only had two people tell me "It's obvious" ever, my mom and a single friend of mine.

But holy hell all the other autism personality/psychological aspects are like cranked up to 100 and I have a love/hate relationship with that. Hyperfocus is a double edged sword for instance. I love that I can get super into something and get really fucking good at it but I don't love obsessing over the same thing for months to the point of it keeping me awake at night and hurting other aspects of my life because I can't change mental direction.

It also isn't good for social anxiety, way too much rumination on single awkward conversations MAKE IT STOP.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 hours ago

I have a childhood friend who was very recently diagnosed with autism. We talked a little while ago and he brought it up. My first thought was "ah, yep, that explains a lot".

He's still a great friend. It didn't change anything about him, rather it helped make sense of his behaviors that we all just saw as "that's just how [friend] is".

[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I’m out of the loop here. Could someone ad some context for me? What’s this about?

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 35 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

There is an incorrect belief that autism is on the rise and that it must be caused by something, but in reality we are just getting better at identifying it and diagnosing people correctly. So it's not that there is an autism epidemic, we're just discovering that it's less rare of a condition than previously assumed.

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 28 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

This exoplanet pandemic is getting out of hand. We're seeing them everywhere now!

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

Have we tried slapping them out of existence? Or just telling them to think harder and maybe that'll make them stop existing?

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I heard there's also a galaxy outbreak happening as we speak

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Jesus christ, this is so getting out of hand! We need to bother some politicians about this. What will happen to our children!?

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 7 points 18 hours ago

It's probably a reading error that will go away if we ignore it.

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 20 hours ago

I just want to take the moment to say, nice to have you all around, especially if you are different. Thanks for enjoying the shit that I don't. And thanks for sharing my love for something for a different reason. Thanks for showing me a different world.

Also If everyone was like me, my girlfriend wouldn't be who she is, but ignoring that, I would have a lot of competition and it would be really boring for all of us. Wtf do you talk about if we all would be the same? I would hate you all, and consequently myself. Thanks for being different, seriously.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

I will argue that the mild part of the autism spectrum, what we call functional autism, is not a mental illness, not a disorder.

It's like being left handed, not the most common thing, it can cause troubles in a world made for right handed people, specially if being left handed is not accepted. But by itself is just another way of being just as "healthy" and "normal" as being right handed.

I think this is an open debate. Some folks prefer it being considered an illness because they want diagnosis and treatment. Others, like me, just love to be this way, and there's nothing I think is wrong with me. The only problem is that the world is not accommodated for people like me, just like it wasn't accommodated for left-handed people not so long ago. But as soon as it's 100% accepted as something normal I don't see it causing any trouble, so if there's no harm there's no illness we can talk about.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 16 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (6 children)

The tldr for this is Neurodiversity

Almost all disabilities exist only within the context of a culture. They are a human applied label.

I recon most disabled people can do more advanced complex tasks than any animal/pet. Yet we do don't think of our pets as disabled.

We are all born with a useless appendix, which can potentially burst and kill us. If someone was born without. Would we all have a disability compared to them.

Someone with only one arm is considered disabled, extra fingers? If its not the default it’s considered disabled.

Now imagine a humanoid alien race with only 1 arm and a hand with 6 fingers. And imagine what their keyboards may look like. A normal human in their society would be considered disabled. Not because you cant use the keyboard but because you would struggle using a tool not designed for you.

Now the reason why you still want a diagnosis even when you agree with the above is simple. Society has not evolved this perspective. We can accommodate almost all disabilities but they key to getting that help is by first bureaucratically “registering” yourself as disabled by a medical professional.

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago

Real quick the appendix might have an evolutionary function. When you have a gut infection and your intestine flushes out everything (good and bad bacteria), the appendix might be a cache for good bacteria that avoids both the infection and flushing. The good bacteria then repopulate your gut from your appendix.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

We din't need a register of left handed people to start making left handed scissors.

I think society can accommodate without the need for medicalize it. That's the difference I wanted to make, an illness need to be medicalized. A different way of being does not.

For instance, my lighter skin complexion makes so I have to wear more sunscreen that people with darker complexions. But no one would think of it as something to be medicalized. It's just "oh, I usually get burned by the sun, I better buy some sunscreen" or "oh, I'm left handed I better put my mouse in left handed mode", or "oh, I'm gay, I'd better go find someone of my same gender to love". Something like that. Simple, easy and widely accepted.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

Forgive me for asking but are you actually left handed though?

Everywhere i go the default scissors are molded for right hand. On my job (which is very accommodating in a general sense) if you ask they have an additional shitty type which is still right handed in terms of the blades but at least the handle more symmetrical.

For computer mice, those aren’t usually very symmetrical anymore either. Especially if those extra side buttons seem useful there is exactly one on the entire market that i know. This is why the vast majority of lefties use their mouse right handed.

There have been very real situations at my job where could not accomplish a task alone because left handed tools where not available and i was just going to hurt myself. Same thing at home because left handed tools are rarely affordable but are just have to bite the bullet and hurt myself to get the job done.

Don't even get me started on walking in class room and seeing this:

And then they complain about lefties handwritten being bad.

We are tolerated and accommodation exists but these are still fairly new. My grandpa literally got beaten the left handness out of him. We still face daily disadvantages.

About your sunscreen, i am pretty sure if you would ask a doctor they could point you to the most appropriate sunscreen. My point was not to medicalize everything but to break the illusion of the medical perspective. People have different needs and they need those needs accommodated without unnecessary hoops to jump trough.

Of course neither left handed or fair skinned is of a similar complexity as neurodivergence or autism. Many accommodation i need for my autism are outside my price range, they will only give them to me if i first proof they are required. I disagree with the system but the system is all i got to work with.

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[–] bouh@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I disagree on the last paragraph. Not so long ago helping disabled people was an obvious thing to do in our societies. I'm not saying it was easy for them or that it always worked. But in the last 70 years our societies changed to remove any help that wasn't justified. The reason was simply to save money.

Now you must justify that you are different and this difference warrant a different treatment. Because the society became intolerant to difference.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Hell, I'd even go so far as to say it might not be worth a specific categorization, that everyone is a bit different and we don't need to pigeonhole every state of reasonably normal into little categories. Ever since Asperger's was popularized, we had a big chunk of people that are not especially far from normal latching onto this.

If it doesn't need particularly special treatment/accommodation, then it's not really worth a category. If someone feels like not dealing with people, needing a bit of a break from it, then that shouldn't need to be correlated to a condition. By the same token, it can't be an excuse for being unreasonable to others when you are perfectly capable of being reasonable, you just don't like doing so. If you misread someone's non-verbal cues, whether or not you have a "condition", people should understand that's just a possibility of everyday life.

[–] Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Absolutely! In fact, I'd argue that this is true for many conditions that we treat as disabilities, like dyslexia (which is rarely disabling) and the aforementioned autism. Both of these conditions have disadvantages and advantages. The situation is not black and white; simply because society was designed one way, does not mean that everyone who does not perfectly fit in is disabled or has a illness.

[–] froggycar360@slrpnk.net 3 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

What’s an advantage of dyslexia?

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Epidemic? That means it's a contagious disease, how do I spread my autism to others? By biting them? (If you ask: I consider some vampires "autism-coded", and I might be making a game with even more autism coded vampires)

isn't this also, like, a tweet about queer people?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 64 points 1 day ago (6 children)

... so what you're saying is that exoplanets cause autism!

[–] RiceMunk@sopuli.xyz 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You have the causation wrong here.

Autistic people go into astronomy, and then find more exoplanets. Therefore autism causes exoplanets!

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

This is technically sort of a little correct.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 7 points 18 hours ago

This is stupid and you know it. Exoplanets were discovered much later. It's Pluto that caused the autism epidemic and autistic people caused the exoplanet epidemic. Keep the causation clear.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 217 points 1 day ago (7 children)

When left-handedness became acceptable the number of left handed people was far higher than experts had predicted.

[–] RedSnt@feddit.dk 93 points 1 day ago (4 children)

My grandmother told me stories about how she'd get whipped with a stick on the top of her hand if she tried using her left. Coercion never went away: conversion camps, behavioural therapy etc.

[–] Daelsky@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Before the 60s, in most Catholic societies, writing with your left hand was seen as a sign of the devil and unchristian. It was thus punished very often. I heard stories in Québec (Canada) where people would be beaten their left hand until there was blood with a wooden ruler. It’s frankly horrible and someone I know did show her scars from being beaten so often.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 16 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

There's a reason that the word "sinister" has negative connotations these days, despite it originating from the latin word for "left".

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It's the same about depression. I doubt people got "more depressed", society have just ignored depression for almost the entirety of human history. My mother still tells me to "just be happy" like I can control brain chemicals. Literally nothing makes me happy. Petting my cat only slightly lessens my suffering. Ugh 😓

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

While I'm sure most of it has always been here, I would be surprised if modern technology hasn't contributed to a spike in depression. I have more content and information than I could ever need in the palm of my hands, and yet everything I read seems to make me hate people.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah in 1940 you knew wealthier people had it better but you really never saw how much better.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 8 points 18 hours ago

Nor could you easily learn how people in other countries lived.

It was way easier to have this garbage Healthcare system we have in the US back when nobody knew that other countries had it for free (potentially, I don't know what year it was implemented in most countries but you get my point).

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[–] solomon42069@lemmy.world 84 points 1 day ago

Just as easily applies to queerness and gender expression too. My favourite part on the these specific issues is the ignorance in the west, acting like being trans and queer is uniquely American and new.

Meanwhile South East Asia is right there...

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