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Which browser do you use and why? (lemmy.selfhostcat.com)
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) by ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com to c/linux@lemmy.ml
 

Using firefox but concerned now

Read about some alternatives:

Edit 2/28: It seems there is no general consensus if we should switch and/or to what.

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[–] Drito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

I use Librewolf, I manage passwords with pass and rofi. Hoppefuly AIs will write a new FOSS web browser. I read here and here that the web standards are too big to be implemented by humans.

[–] icogniito@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago

Zen, absolutely love the workflow and the fact that it is not chromium based.

Waiting excitedly for ladybird, it is already very impressive but still years left until it is daily drive able

[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I use several, depending on use case:

  • Tor Browser for general and anonymous web browsing (e.g. reading news, looking up stuff, and so on)
  • Mullvad Browser as a clear web alternative for general use
  • Librewolf for generally logging into sites with personally identifiable accounts (e.g. to buy stuff)
  • Ungoogled Chromium for those few sites which only work with a Chromium-based browser, or other specific cases
  • On Android (GrapheneOS): Tor Browser and Vanadium

All regular browsers have some hardening applied and uBlock Origin installed.

[–] Asparagus0098@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

I use Firefox as my main browser. I use the multi-account containers extension in Firefox to seperate my browsing activities. Brave is installed as a backup in case firefox fails me. I use TOR browser for searching for stuff that I don't want linked to me.

[–] nycki@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

I still use firefox despite their questionable leadership, for one major reason: it prevents Google from setting whatever web standards they want. Sites that aren't standards compliant will usually still work in Chromium-based browsers, but they will break in Firefox, and then I can report the bugs.

[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 2 points 3 hours ago

Librewolf mainly because that's the Firefox-type browser that comes with my distro (IceCat is there too, but it's based on ESR and not frequently updated).

[–] trk@aussie.zone 6 points 6 hours ago

Firefox. And Thunderbird. And donate to Mozilla.

Don't really see the point in using a fork that, by the time you boil it down, just takes Firefox's work and then releases it later.

I want a Google and Apple alternative and I'd rather support it at the top of the chain.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

Ungoogled chromium, sadly FF has been getting worse over the years (partially because it is getting worse and partially because web developers happen to ignore it's existence) also Chromium has superior security.

I'm hopeful about the future of ladybird but it will take a long time until it is a possible daily driver.

[–] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

Starting yesterday unfortunately Chrome and not Firefox. I just need a working web browser and haven't had the time to figure out what is wrong with my Firefox installation. I have no clue why but after updating to firefox 135 it eats up all my RAM (20GB+) and uses a significant amount of CPU while idle with only the process monitor tab open. Attempting to browse is unreasonably slow. Refreshing Firefox did nothing, despite now having a Firefox installation which isn't logged into anything and has no extensions. So I figured that if I'm going to deal with a browser not logged into anything it might as well be Chrome for a bit until I can figure out what the problem is since that's what all of the internet is designed to work with lately.

[–] Marthirial@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Vivaldi. Edge for testing. FF dev edition is garbage. Glitchy, inconsistent, and blunt.

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago

Not sure what you mean by Zen being a skin. Its a fork in the same way Librewolf and Waterfox are forks.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Gnome browser, I’d use ladybird but it’s not ready yet

[–] Turturtley@aussie.zone 5 points 8 hours ago

My issue is that while i am concerned about privacy, i’m more concerned with security patching. And none of these smaller browsers have the resources to turn around security fixes as quickly as firefox or chrome.

Firefox is the least of the concerns as long as we have the config options to disable anything deemed not privacy-respecting.

[–] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

Check articFox

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 3 points 7 hours ago
[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 25 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Still Firefox. Every time Mozilla does anything the entire privacy community goes insane. The terms of use they published seem entirely benign, and the only thing anyone can actually point to is the "direction being worrisome". Well, I'll get worried when they update the terms to be actually onerous. Everything even possibly annoying can be disabled, and it's still the only browser engine offering competition against Chrome ruling the web.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I don’t see how you could find the terms not concerning and their removal of stating they don’t sell data

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago

What in the terms is concerning? They still have the bulk of the language in the old data privacy guarantee as well. This seems like they just got a more circumspect legal department who wants to cover their ass.

It's always been the case that Mozilla could decide to just make Firefox suck ass. Again, I'll be worried when they actually change the terms to something unacceptable.

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It’s easy you just don’t worry too much about it. Is this a completely dumbass, reality avoidant coping strategy? You be the judge

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 2 points 11 hours ago
[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I use firefox and am actively looking to change to something, potentially librewolf.

Edit: just installed librewolf. it's super clean and I'm glad I got it. replaced firefox almost instantly.

[–] ethancedwards8@programming.dev 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I like librewolf but for me video is so incredibly slow. Is anyone else having this issue?

[–] kixik@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Have you tried enabling webgl, which by default is disable on Librewolf? You can do that by overwriting the corresponding setting, as it can be done for any Librewolf setting, in particular the webgl override needed is:

defaultPref("webgl.disabled", false);

If you do, Librewolf recommend using the extension "CanvasBlocker" given the fingerprinting allowed by webgl. There's a settings doc BTW..

[–] bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago

As of late using konqueror, it quite bs-less

[–] KammicRelief@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

I'm a very recent linux convert, coming from windows where I was using Vivaldi and I quite like it. But... are there reasons to switch to something else?

[–] FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi 4 points 11 hours ago
[–] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Falkon, because it's fully integrated to KDE. Though I wish an actual Qt web browser running Gecko (or Servo, maybe one day) existed.

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I think there is a generaal consensus to say it's not ARC

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[–] Templa@beehaw.org 3 points 11 hours ago

I use Librewolf as my daily driver, however it breaks a lot of websites. We had to purchase plane tickets yesterday and to use regular Firefox.

I was super hyped for Ladybird but there was this weird thing regarding pronouns on their docs (last year?) and no matter the outcome, I just decided to not follow it anymore.

I have Chromium installed for things that break even on regular Firefox and for comparing websites when I need.

On mobile (grapheneOS), I am currently using Firefox Nightly, I think because it was the only one I was able to install extensions from custom repositories, I am not sure if that's still the case. I know I can (and should use) Vanadium, but I always miss my FF extensions when I do it. I play a lot of things so I love when I am automatically redirected from Fandom to a Breeze wiki instance, for example.

I never tried any other browsers of the list, and honestly I am very curious on the differences between Librewolf and Waterfox. Wasn't able to do the research by myself yet.

[–] rando@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

Using a firefox derivative I dont think is a good option as it will always be behind on security updates.... I guess I am going to wait until the Orion Beta / software comes to Linux which was announced recently. Orion is a WebKit based browser that is on iphone / mac

[–] JanUwU42@lemm.ee 5 points 14 hours ago

Zen Browser I love it :)

[–] RecipeForHate1@lemmy.ml 5 points 14 hours ago

I moved to LibreWolf back when Mozilla announced AI features

I appreciate its privacy-focused approach

[–] kazaika@lemmy.world 27 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Firefox. Read the new statements on their website and the Full diff of the pull request. Not concerned at all.

Edit: pumped for ladybird, but its gonna be a few years until that is finished

[–] Peasley@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Same. I'm not worried, just confused by the new language. It seems unnecessary, but I could end up being flat wrong.

I wish Mozilla would refocus on improving Firefox instead of the AI nonsense they've pursued lately. They havent been perfect, but if i'm going to give any faceless entity the benefit of the doubt, it's Mozilla.

That said, i want the forks to thrive. Librewolf is pretty good. I might check out Pale Moon again to see what has(n't) changed.

Waterfox is also good from what i remember. I used a build of it with KDE global menu support on OpenSuse for years, and i was happy with it the whole time.

RIP TenFourFox. Hopefully a new fork will emerge for powerpc and other retro computers

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I read the new language to mean: they are going to record your input streams and feed them to AI/LLM - thereby recording your previously private info that they used to discard and protect. Up to you, I use Chrome because it integrates well with the gmail account I've used for 25+ years and I appreciate the "login anywhere and get your same setup" functionality, as well as the ability to nuke remote login sessions.

[–] enemenemu@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

You can login with firefox and have the same setup anywhere as well. it's really convenient to share tabs between mobile and workstation

[–] commander@lemmings.world 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Firefox. Google removed a valuable addon from their store without justifiable reason and kept it removed because there's not sufficient backlash.

The addon is AdNauseam. It's an improvement on uBlock Origin that clicks ads in addition to hiding them.

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 5 points 16 hours ago

Librewolf & waterfox are fantastic. Zen is interesting but it takes some work if you are used to firefox/Librewolf. Ladybird isn't out yet 🫠

[–] SeeFerns@programming.dev 4 points 15 hours ago

Been using zen for a few days with ublock, no issues so far but I might go back to librewolf soon even though it feels less modern. It just feels safer, idk tbh

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Everything is just a skin of either Chrome or Firefox. Until recently, all browser on iPhone were a skin of Safari. Ladybird is the exception.

[–] phar@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

Gnome browser and Konqueror are WebKit based like safari is

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