If US can't guarantee, then sell the raw earth to the EU instead or china, india.
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Of course not. That would be against Putins commands.
The thing confusing me most is why Ukraine would trust any US' "guarantee", when they've been nothing but untrustworthy.
And people's lives are not toys. I get the sentiment behind wanting less people to die. But Trump and Putin do think people's lives are toys, so I can't imagine the outcome of this being beneficial in any way to Ukraine.
The thing confusing me most is why Ukraine would trust any US’ “guarantee”, when they’ve been nothing but untrustworthy.
Bro, this whole ordeal is a lesson in why not to trust the west.
Ukraine should've kept its nukes and mined the shit out of its border with Russia. Every single day of peace should've been spent preparing for war.
In hindsight, any retard who said "but preparations will be seen as aggression!" should be chastised for the damaging retards they are. Looks like when we listen to them, Ukraine still gets invaded!
Or maybe they play along hoping the next US election cycle allows them to join NATO.
Ukraine is going to renuclearize
No, it’s not.
Right. Germany, Poland, Italy and Ukraine are. And the EU is going to federalise
The EU is more likely to dissolve than to federalize.
Seems like the US has no leverage if we're not offering anything.
Ukraine wouldn’t last long with US support.
The leverage is whatever they expect to happen if they are left to Russian interests
"Art of the Deal"
So why should anyone listen to what the US says anyway?
What nations should they listen to instead?
Their own mostly. Countries don't have country buddies.
As for NATO membership in particular, all NATO members need to accept new members...
But the EU has a similar clause to help with military invasions, so the US support isn't strictly needed for security.
And there is no provision to remove a ~~more~~ member from NATO.
You can remove a member by all leaving and forming NATO 2 and not accepting the member they wanted to remove.
Zelenskyy would probably get more support from his people if he told trump to get fucked than by being his dancing monkey. I know he's desperately trying to do what's best for Ukraine, but sucking up to that piece of shit isn't it.
"They have great rare earth"
What a dumb fuck.
He talks like a very stupid root vegetable.
Made me chuckle, thanks
I could see how rare earth might be good for a root vegetable, at least.
I prefer root vegetables cooked medium (carrots) to well done (potatoes). Greens are excellent rare, though.
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Did anyone expect anything else from Krasnov?
I get the impression Trump has no clue what’s going on. He’s just just regurgitating bullet points that someone—probably Putin—put in large print on a piece of paper.
That's what he's always done.
He has the attention span of a toddler. He latches onto ideas, and specifically things that will satisfy his ego, his greed or his lust, with a laser focus, for exactly and only so long as they manage to hold his attention.
And at the same time, he has essentially no conception of objective truth. It's not quite that he lives in a fantasy world as that his need to satisfy his ego, greed and/or lust is so much his focus that everything else pales in comparison, including truth.
So he essentially sincerely says whatever he thinks will serve to accomplish whatever it is that he's focused on at the moment. It's not so much that he lies as that he doesn't really make a distinction between truth and lies. The only meaningful measure of a claim is whether or not it will serve his goals.
And all of that means that a smart, canny and manipulative man - Putin, for instance - can get him pointed in whatever direction he wants by feeding him the right bait and the right bullet points to go along with it.
Exactly. This became very obvious after his meeting with Russia, he just started repeating their talking points without any critique. He has zero plan or strategy, just chasing feelings and vibes to feed his giant ego.
It's not so much that he lies as that he doesn't really make a distinction between truth and lies. The only meaningful measure of a claim is whether or not it will serve his goals.
Been saying this for years. The man literally can't tell a lie, everything that comes out of his mouth is the truth. I don't think many people have been around someone that's full-on Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD).
And yes, once you figure out that's his disorder, he's as easy to manipulate as a toddler. Also been saying since he won the election, his handlers are in charge this time and it couldn't be more obvious. Look at his Truth Social posts for one example. They're far more clear and focused, easily written by someone imitating him. Any one of us could do it.
Krasnov does what he is TOLD.
Hey France, you wanna dominate europe and soon also the world again? Comon who than to do it better than with your old pal germany. This time we are the good guys. Democracy, security, peace and justice! - germany
France is still colonizing Africa.
Well, not necessarily encrypted messaging security, https://www.intelligenceonline.com/government-intelligence/2025/01/30/france-makes-new-push-for-backdoors-into-encrypted-messaging-apps,110369896-art
That being said, yes, a stronger EU is better for the whole world. I hate that Trump is becoming the impetus for that.
Trump and Pooting. Helping the EU grow larger and breaking their chains of Dependance
I though trump was going to pull the US out of Nato?
I guess by staying in they can derail it being useful to anybody else, veto new members, etc.
Yeah, I wonder if they could kick the US out.
The US has already devalued being a member of NATO.
Zelenskyy, it's a trap! Trump does not give a shit about Ukraine!
I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that Zelenskyy probably isn't stupid enough to not be aware of that already.
Considering Zelenskyy said out loud that Trump lives in a disinformation bubble, it's a safe bet that he's aware.
At this point he's probably just buying time. He knows the US will abandon them, but probably needs to give the EU time to sort out their finances.
Trump trades alliances for slogans; NATO isn’t a casino, and Ukraine isn’t a poker chip.
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He's gonna get the rare earth minerals deal, and then immediately go back on his word. This guy hasn't told the truth his entire life. Why would he suddenly start now?
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