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[–] uraniumcovid@lemm.ee 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

and the film is also a giant commercial for eugenics which trump seems to be in favor of too.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Only the first 4 minutes, which is necessary to set up the remaining 80 minutes.

[–] uraniumcovid@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

not really only that part, and even it was only the first part, it is the intro that as you say is necessary to set up the movie, thereby the whole foundation. sarah z has a great video on it :D

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

The movie is a satire on commercialism. Do you also think HG Wells' Time Machine is about eugenics?

If you like, ignore the first 4 minutes and assume a virus made everyone stupid. The movie still works and there isn't any further hint of eugenics.

The eugenics angle of Idiocracy is pushed by corporate PR so that companies like Starbucks are not associated with handjobs.

[–] TheObviousSolution@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Recognizing a trend versus being a proponent of the most horrible to approach it is an Idiocracy level leap in logic.

Also, President Camacho was supposed to be a caricature of how bad it could get, not an actually better choice.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 11 hours ago

President Camacho was supposed to be a caricature of how bad it could get

Turns out it could get much, much, worse.

[–] uraniumcovid@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

not really. i recommend watching sarah z’s analysis from a few years ago on the movie.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 98 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fuck

Idiocracy went from funny because it’s so unbelievable. To unfunny because it’s too real. But now it’s starting to get unbelievable again as it portrays a future that’s too good to be true.

Will that make it funny again?

[–] msage@programming.dev 52 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't know how to tell you, but it was always very believable.

Like everything apart from them choosing the smartest guy in the room was very spot on.

[–] CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the only problem with it was the weird eugenicsy angle it had. You don't need to "breed dumber people" if you just brainwash all but the top .01%.

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 12 hours ago

I don't remember any 'breeding', wasn't it just that smart people refused to have any children?

And now that I think about it, the biggest problem with idiocracy is that they survived that far into the future... cause we don't have that long as a society ahead of us.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I suppose I was naive in my youth.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 116 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Also:

  • He changed his mind in light of new evidence
  • He gave credit where credit was due (when the world was saved)
[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 68 points 2 days ago
  • He recognized there was a problem and sought out experts that could solve it
  • He listened to the experts, even though he didn't like what they were saying
[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Yeah he let Brawndo go out of business.. I feel like in our current reality there'd be some bailout, and we'd keep on having crop failures

[–] shani66@ani.social 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Honestly, Idiocracy might be the good ending to America. Not only was camacho objectively better than Trump at his job, but the underlying logic of most of the setting was strong too. Increased child protections? That's good! Even if i don't think Carl's Junior should handle that. Advanced and easy medical system? Hell yeah! Legalized sex work? You love to see it! Heck, they might have kept capitalism but at least the apparent good guy in the system took over.

We genuinely might not even reach idiocracy's level in my life time.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not to mention the beer subscription, and corporate funded clothing.

'Baitn' Channel? C'mon!

[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While I agree with everything else, calling Idiocracy's healthcare system advanced might be a stretch lol

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They had a device that could diagnose various illnesses simply by shoving 3 rods into your various orfices. That's considerably more advanced than any medical tech we have today.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

We have no idea how accurate the diagnoses were though.

It's also possible that the rods were completely unnecessary, and they were there just as a "we have to make poor people healthcare worse than rich people healthcare" measure. You know, like the hospital equivalent to Spotify ads for Spotify.

This image should also mention their drinking habits. On the left, only drinks Brawndo.

On the right, drinks only 12 cans of diet coke per day.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No kidding. Camacho saw the problems and wanted to solve them.

[–] AnalWorshipper@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Who in the right mind spell paid like that? 💀

[–] SwordInStone@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Thanks to you I learned something:

Payed is a rare word that's only used in nautical/maritime contexts. It can be used to refer to the act of coating parts of a boat with waterproof material or to the act of letting out a rope or chain by slackening it.

It's copy pasted from google 🤮, but I verified it.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Dwayne Camacho

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 33 points 2 days ago

They did a President Lex Luthor arc in the Superman comic books.

Lex Luthor turned his businesses over to a blind trust, hired great people from all walks of life, including an actual teacher to head the Dept. of Education, and treated people with respect and courtesy.

[–] Doxanarchy@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey, you don't know all the details of the deal. Maybe he gave her a lot of rope.

[–] Doxanarchy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

Very good 😆

[–] Cruxifux 14 points 1 day ago

I’ll take dumb over corrupt capitalist any day of the week.

[–] maplehill@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

This meme made my day and gave me a good chuckle. Thank you.