Having so many communities concentrated in one instance is a problem
this post was submitted on 19 Jan 2025
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Having an architecture that locks communities to an instance is a problem. They should be distributed across the network with no notion of a home instance.
How would moderation work then?
Moderation is also just an event in the protocol, just like votes or comments. Your instance would simply have to aggregate all those events, just like the current "home instances" do for their communities.
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Then you run into problems with instance admins disagreeing over moderation
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They still to be attached to an instance at the protocol level. Or you have instances which are barely network components rather than communities, but that's not what ActivityPub is about
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196 is a fascist shithole and they are leaving blahaj because they finally acknowledged that fact and that there is an associated problem with misogynists and chasers on their platform. Good on blahaj for kicking out the trash.
They will be right at home on .world and frankly concentrating all the reactionaries there is good because it will drive other people to less shitty instances.
It's called a fediverse for a reason
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Also, lots of discussion under the announcement post in the new comm https://lemmy.world/post/24437552.
Omg the disparity is palpable.
The post you linked:
we are going to continue to moderate on this instance exactly the same as we did on blahaj.zone.
The "we've already left" style post on blahaj:
Why? That's a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada's excellent team of admins...
Edit: so in asking whether the moderation will appear the same to the users, the answer is "well yes, except actually no".
Even better one mod said
I can guarantee we will not be expected to entertain trolls
Their ideological differences have clearly been spelled out as not wanting to respect people whose identities they deem invalid.
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I'm on LW and both communities seem empty. This usually indicates defederation, right?
No, that's something with your client. When I go to https://lemmy.world/c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com I see plenty of posts.
It's strange, when I'm logged in on the web app or use Sync I see nothing, when I'm not logged in to the web app it's fine. Also using the Eternity app works fine.
That is weird, maybe check your language settings? Make sure you have 'Undetermined' selected. If not, maybe log out and back in.
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A balloon is an accurate allegory for reddit.world. it may be big but it's empty of anything of substance.
Seems like they didn't get the memo that the entire point of coming here was to decentralize.
Then again /c/196 sucks so that's a fitting instance for them. Blahaj is marginally better.
I don’t fully understand this.
While having one big instance is not ideal, isn’t the idea that it should be easy to move once and if the big instance becomes draconian?
I thought the whole point of the fediverse was not to get locked into a walled garden and be able to decentralize as needed, ending up with a few big players is inevitable, no?
The issue here is that the community was doing well on one instance, then the mods decided to move without asking the community.
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Instance wars are so fucking pathetic
You would say that coming from that dungheap at lemmy.zip!
Fantastic use of that meme format
More like Nonce Sense.
196 is a horrible community full of transmysoginists and chasers and literal fascists.
196 is a horrible community full of transmysoginists and chasers and literal fascists
Could you provide examples? i've had generally good experiences with them. However i'm not active on it so i don't know.
Here's an example of them defending chasers.
Thanks. That example's pretty confusing for me to follow due to lack of context, so i won't comment on it. But ig trans chasers are cis guys interested in trans women/men? I haven't actually seen this on c/196.
But i remember this was a huge problem on r/196. It was basically an entire circlejerk of cis people talking about how much they love femboys and trans girls and the actual trans people were the minority. The lemmy community doesn't seem to have this.
full of transmysoginists and chasers and literal fascists.
This feels too far fetched to call them as nakoichi called them imo. (i'm not including your example due to as i said, not being able to understand it)
Honestly I don't have the energy right now to go digging through old posts but there is a reason we defederated from blahaj, and it was well documented on hexbear at one point.
196 on reddit was originally kind of alright but lax moderation allowed chasers and reactionaries in and they basically took over the subreddit and then inserted themselves into blahaj. Ada refused to acknowledge this problem and we severed ties but it looks like she realized we were right as I hear there are talks of refederating as one of our conditions was the removal of the 196 mods and tightening up moderation on their end.
Strange, i thought they were an left-libertarian community? Sounds odd for them to be like that. I'll try to see more about it i guess.
left-libertarian community?
More like just libertarian at the end. Anticommunism ran rampant and allowed fascists to insert themselves into moderation positions at which point it just became a reactionary shithole.
My advice is be very wary of any community the is specifically "anti-tankie" it always leads to the same thing.
Tankie is just another iteration of anti-communist dogwhistles, like "woke" or "sjw" or most recently "DEI".
They hate us because we are honest with our goals and aims and that they are correct. The communists disdain to hide their views and aims for they know that they can only succeed through the total overthrow of all social and economic institutions. We have nothing to lose but our chains, and a world to win.
This is the best I could find, though I don't think it substantiates claims being made. It's also over a year old and so might not represent the current state of 196.
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when i saw that announcement post i literally did a double take at my watch to make sure it wasn’t April Fool’s Day
like that’s how dumb this idea was i thought it was a joke at first
Drag saw 196 mods mentioning their plan to move instances after Ada told them not to misgender trans people. "Ideological differences", huh? Wonder what that's code for
You did piss off a couple of powerusers dedicated to instance wars, but the mods are working to insist that's not what any of this is about.
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Btw does someone have some place where i can read what happened exactly?
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Nonsence? Nonsence?
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