this post was submitted on 16 Jan 2025
206 points (99.0% liked)

chapotraphouse

13687 readers
192 users here now

Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.

No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer

Slop posts go in c/slop. Don't post low-hanging fruit here.

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I feel like Casandra. Very gender affirming.

top 48 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 94 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That 300 years part is the most fucked thing of it all. They are literally including genocide and slavery as "pretty good".

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 55 points 1 month ago

But slavery and genocides have been decreasing over time due to capitalism! so-true

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not to mention rich capitalist barons being tightly involved in government has already been happening the whole time. There's no new behaviour here.

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What do you mean captialism fixed those minute issues?

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No it didn't. And are you calling those issues "minute"? Please elaborate.

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lemister's being sarcastic.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Can never be sure these days. I literally had to remove a post from a long time user just yesterday that basically was saying the same exact thing.

[–] Edie@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I once again ask people to use tone tags.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

Uncritical support for tone tags [serious].

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago
[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I only learned that those exist yesterday and I still don't know how they work

[–] Edie@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Here is a website that seems fine at explaining it: https://tonetaglist.carrd.co/

The basic is just that you add something to signify how the comment is to be read, it doesn't have to be like "/s", it can also be [sarcasm] like RedWizard did.

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Where did that bring you?... back-to-me-shining

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait, even on r/neoliberal?! Amazing things are happening lenin-laugh

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That was on r/destiny. So it’s even more amazing.

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait, what?! That's genuinely astonishing

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Amazing things really are happening apparently.

Back when the George Floyd protests were at their peak it was quite clear we had failed on the left to organize enough both from an anarchist or vanguard perspective.

The contradictions are continuing to sharpen and we MUST be better prepared for the next flashpoint.

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

100%, if we fail to learn from the past and sieze opportunity then we are failures as leftists.

[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I love how that comment is obviously meant to be a joke but it's just the truth

(except the "it's been pretty good" part; the only "good" part about it has been its use in overthrowing feudalism)

[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

overthrowing feudalism

"It has been said that terror is the principle of despotic government. Does your government therefore resemble despotism? Yes, as the sword that gleams in the hands of the heroes of liberty resembles that with which the henchmen of tyranny are armed. Let the despot govern by terror his brutalized subjects; he is right, as a despot. Subdue by terror the enemies of liberty, and you will be right, as founders of the Republic. The government of the revolution is liberty's despotism against tyranny."

gui-better

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Arguably the peasants had a better quality of life under feudalism with more time off from work than modern day workers. And the lords knew they had to provide for the peasants or they’d be outnumbered.

[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope my self satisfaction takes the edge off when Amerikkka finally collapses

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t trust the seriousness of that comment, honestly. It comes off as very snarky, which would be in line with liberal behavior.

[–] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

eh the wave of leftist discourse that broke into popularity we're currently still riding started as irony posting

I don't think that happens here, because ideological neo liberalism is a hell of a stance to have, but snarky irony poisoned stuff used to be our bread and butter too

[–] Bobson_Dugnutt@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago

I'm never quite sure how many layers of irony they're on

[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hey now give us principled anarchists some credit

[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

Of course! "tankie" has come to mean anyone who is anti imperialist, or basically anyone who isn't credulous enough to believe the US state dept and military.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you support Ukraine? If your answer is no, believe it or not, tankie

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I support the workers. I do not distinguish between borders. As long as they are not reactionary I support them. What is happening is a tragedy and the pragmatic approach is that the "harm reduction" stance is hastening the seemingly inevitable Russian victory. I just want to see it end and I would rather the side that intervened on behalf of people undergoing pogroms from groups like Azov and other fascists supported by the CIA prevail over the alternative.

Like I said: Principled. I don't care if Putin or the RF have altruistic motives, but I know why this all is happening and how best it can be resolved with minimal bloodshed going forward.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago

"harm reduction" stance is hastening the seemingly inevitable Russian victory

Have you considered that Putin is like Voldemort and Zelenskyy is like Harry Potter? smuglord

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

"You're such a Cassandra" pain

[–] roux@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Took them 300 years to find out that capitalism leads to the most obvious conclusion of capitalism. Hey, at least they tried.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 month ago

The owl of minerva takes flight at night... Or in liberals case 300 years later.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago

Even worse, that comment was probably meant as a joke.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago

All our worst enemies are in one place.

This is a simple observation, nothing more.

[–] stigsbandit34z@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

Nah this is so tongue in cheek

They love this garbage

[–] CrispyFern@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

no-choice but liberal

[–] SovietBeerTruckOperator@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Seems a lot of them are having come to Jesus moments(CW: r/neoliberal)

[–] TheEgoBot@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 month ago

dont forget people taunting them with comments such as "“haha enjoy Gaza getting glassed losers”. You lose credibility when you threaten something and not only does it not happen but the reverse of it happens first week on the job.

Fuck this thread is great lol

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

This is the Wapo story referenced in the thread: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/01/15/trump-biden-credit-israel-hamas-ceasefire/

A diplomat briefed on the negotiations said Hamas’s diminished position aided negotiations, in addition to Trump’s influence, saying this was “the first time there has been real pressure on the Israeli side to accept a deal.” The diplomat, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss closed-door talks, said the contours of the agreement suggest that Israeli negotiators offered concessions on issues that had previously impeded a breakthrough.

But a senior Biden administration official contested the idea that Trump’s Inauguration Day ultimatum secured a conclusion to talks. The official said that while deadlines can be helpful, the “catalyst” for success was the defeat of Hezbollah, an Iran-backed militia; a ceasefire deal in Lebanon; and Hamas’s “massive isolation.”

It's unclear what the "pressure" was from the Trump camp to get it done. Time will tell I guess.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A Reddit link was detected in your comment. Here are links to the same location on alternative frontends that protect your privacy.

[–] Harajukum@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

What’s crazy is if they looked at an American text book, they’d We’ve been through this

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

If you structured society around who owns the most beanis and allow those with lots of beanis to ignore the rules then you don't have rules for society you have a caste system with extra steps