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Jury nullification is legal.
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wtf
Jury nullification is legal.
Yep. Mods power hungry just like on reddit. Federated platforms exist to not have to deal with this BS.
Nullification is your duty when the law is unjust. Also not illegal
Exactly.
Juries wouldn't work if it didn't exsist.
In practice, sort of. It's a symptom or side effect of two other really good ideas:
A jury cannot be in any way punished for any verdict they reach.
One cannot be tried for the same offense twice if it is acquitted. Technical term for this is "double jeopardy." A guilty verdict can be appealed but a not guilty verdict is absolutely final.
The shapes of these two principles are such that they cannot interlock in any way that does not leave room for jury nullification.
And saying those words in jury duty will get you tossed immediately from selection lol
How is jury nullification against .world ToS? It is part of the law! Or more specifically it is literally created from the absence of a law, to allow a fair trial by your peers.
Courts don't want you to know about jury nullification but it is not illegal. It is a required part of the judicial system.
so trying to prevent people knowing about is is more akin to trying to prevent people from knowing what rights they have?
Only god may judge us? Sure, which is why god sent a fucking assassin.
I consider human life sacred
Like the lives of those cut short by denying treatment so CEOs and shareholders can make more money?
only God may judge us
Oh, fuck off. If God exists and actually cared, he/she/they would have "judged" the guy a long time ago for introducing needless suffering and cruelty.
only god may judge us
Is a great argument for jury nullification. Because that will allow for god to decide the shooters verdict.
It's a TOS violation to discuss one of the very real and legitimate responsibilities you have as a juror?
Like, nullification is a thing because it's very much the absolute very very last defense against bullshit laws being used against people by a corrupt judicial system.
It's a moral imperative and something anyone sitting on a jury should understand and be willing to use.
What an absurd take, especially since it sounds like it's all the .world admins having it.
It's likely not actually a TOS violation, that person commenting is almost certainly talking out of their ass, likely to try and push their own agenda and make people comply.
lemmy.ml gonna ride this for a month lmao
It was pretty well known before this that .world are liberals.
The mods there were always on a power trip if you said the “wrong” thing.
Isn’t basically every Lemmy instance liberal though? At least I haven’t seen any conservative Lemmy instances yet.
Depending on who you ask, the Liberal instances are the conservative instances on Lemmy.
The Overton window of Lemmy doesn’t recognise mainstream conservatism as a legitimate political ideology (rightfully so).
So the arguments of left and right are focussed between authoritarian left and social democrats.
Only God may judge us? Which God exactly, you giant fucking DIPSHIT?
My inbox is quite a ride. I keep seeing insults in it and then realise it's not meant for me
They keep claiming all these things against the TOS yet you can read that and none of it's in there. I don't know what it is about these mods but they sure seem to be trying to push their own agenda.
Remember how the !world@lemmy.world mods kept pushing for months the propaganda bot from a pro-Zionist and very rightwing (so much so that their definition of a Rightwing news media was pretty much only the Far-Right ones) organisation trying to tell everybody which news to trust and which to not trust?
Also, curiously and back some months ago when I was making anti-Zionist posts in my Lemmy.world account, all of a sudden I started getting e-mails on the account I used to register on Lemmy.world from an Israeli organisation doing "Education about Israel" courses and they knew not just my e-mail but also the country I lived in (the e-mails were in my native language) even though I didn't share my email on any posts.
I blocked that bot ages ago, is it still doing its annoying as all fuck thing or did they give up on it?
They eventually gave up on it.
I want to find a new home instance, just randomly picked this one when I signed up moving from reddit.
Anybody got any suggestions or one's to avoid?
Personally I'd recommend picking an instance that at least has Hexbear and Lemmygrad blocked, as that removes 95% of the toxicity you'd see on the platform. You can check what an instance blocks by scrolling to the bottom of their main page and clicking the instances link.
Sopuli.xyz is a really solid medium sized general instance, with good admins and an updated lemmy.
Lemmy.cafe is a nice small instance (not much local activity, so you'll need to rely on the All view and your subscriptions for that one).
If you have affinity with Anarchism (or environmentalism or sailing the high seas), Slrpnk.net and lemmy.dbzer0 are both excellent.
But if you'd like a more themed instance that appeals to a particular interest, by all means go for that instead. https://lemmyverse.net/ or the instance finder tool at https://join-lemmy.org/ are good places to find one. :)
https://lemm.ee/ is generalist, second biggest instance, cool admins, federated with almost everyone
Lemmy.zip is a bit more techy, but very transparent: https://lemmy.zip/post/27236300 also federated with almost everyone
If you look for instance defederated from hexbear and lemmygrad, there is https://sopuli.xyz/ and https://discuss.online/
https://reddthat.com/ is nice too, but disables downvotes
Reading this from lemm.ee right now! I'm also a big fan of https://sh.itjust.works/.
I’m a bit leftist, am I a good fit for shit just works?
If by leftist, do you mean actually leftist, or do you mean that you think the profits from imperialism should trickle down to white people in the imperial core?
The leftist instances are: lemmygrad.ml hexbear.net and to a lesser extent lemmy.ml but the latter is federated with more instances
i was asked to moderate anything that is illegal specifically mentioning "jury nullification" and "financially supporting" this has been changed now until a larger announcement is made
many admins and moderators at .world including myself are not american, i pray that the others who are angry at me and hope they consider there are more countries with laws that are different from them
you may disagree with my faith but i consider myself fair in my removal in this violation
when trump was shot i removed comments celebrating this violence when sinwar was killed i removed comments celebrating this violence so when this person is murdered i remove comments celebrating this violence
when users report these comments and those above me ask me to act on this topic i continue as i have for months in these communities
there was no good-faith and productive discussion to be had when you celebrate murder
how can you call others a tankie when you dance on graves as they do?
i have sympathy for the americans who are wronged by the man murdered but instead of violence maybe you consider reading a book to understand the world around you and be open to the power of faith to restore your love of humanity instead of parading violence
i was asked to moderate anything that is illegal specifically mentioning "jury nullification"
By who, pray tell? Because at the moment it seems like you're the only mod on the server doing so.
there are more countries with laws that are different from them
In which of these countries is it illegal to discuss jury nullification in the US?
i consider myself fair in my removal in this violation
Although you took actions that are based on a version of the rules that nobody else has access to?
those above me ask me to act on this topic
Again, you're the only one acting on this topic. Who is asking you to do so? Right now it seems like you're being hung out to dry.
there was no good-faith and productive discussion to be had when you celebrate murder
Weird, I'm seeing a ton of productive discussion in this thread
how can you call others a tankie when you dance on graves as they do?
Because that's not the definition of tankie. Dancing on graves is not an aspect of any particular ideology.
instead of violence maybe you consider reading a book to understand the world around you and be open to the power of faith to restore your love of humanity instead of parading violence
Stop trying to push your fucking religion on everybody else. You're the mod of c/News, not c/Christianity.