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Pain upon ZA/UM, Dark Math Games and Longdue! Death to the pretenders, glory to Summer Eternal! Long live Tuulik! ๐Ÿซก๐Ÿซก๐Ÿซก๐Ÿซก

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[โ€“] borschtisgarbo@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 8 months ago

SUMMER ETERNAL IS THE RIGHTFUL HEIR, ANYONE WHO DENIES THIS IS A CAPITALIST ROADER AND WILL FACE THE FIRING SQUAD

[โ€“] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago

So I guess that confirms which one is the good DE studio lol

[โ€“] Parzivus@hexbear.net 23 points 8 months ago

Weird story. No news yet on what contract terms were broken, but supposedly a judge has already ruled that Tuulik cannot work on the game until April 2025. The millionaire who sued him says ZA/UM is not involved but their lawyers sent something to Tuulik. Said millionaire is also involved in two of the Disco successors, neither of which is Summer Eternal.

Very messy situation, but if the worst of it is that Tuulik can't officially work on the game for six months, that's not too bad?

[โ€“] Beaver@hexbear.net 23 points 8 months ago

The Disco Elysium successor drama is the REAL sequel

[โ€“] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago

Iโ€™ll end up buying whichever one the capitalists try to suppress

I will simply play disco elysium again

[โ€“] darkmode@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

wouldnโ€™t whichever project comes next from kurvitz be the true successor?

[โ€“] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Depends. He was responsible for a lot of the lore and world building and is definitely the figurehead, but people like Tuulik did a lot of the actual writing in the game as well. They talk about their contributions in the documentary about the whole scandal. One of these projects has the art director, I believe.

Kurvitz didn't do it alone so I'd personally go with whichever company has the most former employees that worked on the parts most relevant to you or that were generally the highest quality.

Which right now is Summer Eternal.

[โ€“] darkmode@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I understand that making a game requires a team of talented people & all that. But generally I feel like the most impactful narratives come from games where there is a singular passionate artist steering the whole thing. Some games like that are almost entirely a one man show like Undertale for example. Dark souls you only ever hear Miyazaki's name really. I don't really have overwhelming evidence off hand for my theory here it's just kinda a vibe. I'm sure one could whip up examples of splintering artists surpassing the previous project as counter examples

[โ€“] Esoteir@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

dark souls was written by a team of people, and the counter example exists within the same franchise: dark souls 2 had the best narrative and miyazaki had barely anything to do with it shrug-outta-hecks

[โ€“] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I have an easy way to find out who's the From Software writing talent:

Who wrote for the Elden Ring DLC? The good writer is whoever isn't that person.

[โ€“] Esoteir@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

as far as i can tell it was miyazaki, he at least publicly took credit for writing elden ring, and the DLC doesn't have any new writing credits

[โ€“] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Ladies and gentlemen, we got him

[โ€“] darkmode@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

iโ€™ve been owned i probably have the most hours out of the dark soulses in ds2 bc of sotfs

[โ€“] Esoteir@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

high key same, i fucked around in multiplayer so much on ds2 and sotfs launch, bellgang and the near unlimited respecs was so much fun

[โ€“] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The projects I'm interested in are summer eternal and the one Kurvitz is with which I believe is Red Info or something like that.

Of course if Any of these studios produce a game we'll see which is good. But those are the two that seem most likely to hold the torch so to speak

[โ€“] darkmode@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

defo, there should have been another RPG of this type years ago already

[โ€“] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Damn, leftist infighting just like real life.

[โ€“] CredibleBattery@hexbear.net 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

you can't call it that, please stop calling it that, leftist-infighting would imply that any of these feuding studios besides Summer Eternal are actually leftists, they are not. calling it ''leftist-infighting'' is an actively hurtful narrative that muddies the truth; a bunch of big shot financiers wearing the skin of Disco Elysium are doing everything they can to smother out their communist competition before it even launches a single project

[โ€“] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago

Mea culpa, I've only been awake for like 45 minutes and the thinking parts aren't warmed up yet

it's also just a tired joke. it was funny the first few times but it's every thread about it now lol

[โ€“] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago

phoenix-think Is this all just some type of elaborate ruse with all the splitting and legal cat fighting?

popcorn-time Hope someone makes a documentary of this. Why hasn't a -gate suffix been added since it's freeze-gamer drama?

Disco-gate? The Elysium-gate? We need a title to brand this you know.