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I've been telling people, if an admin defeds lemmygrad for some smarmy ass lying complete libshit reasons like Ada did, you should have 0 (zero) confidence that she or any other admin who does the same will be willing to engage y'all in good faith and actually work to change their instance, there isn't a single reason to defed lemmygrad that couldn't also be used to defed Hexbear for other than maybe lemmygrad is more sectatarian but that makes up maybe 1% of the content on our comms, or maybe that it's not as outwardly pro-trans*, but then again it's also the only instance in the threadiverse that I'm aware of that specifically makes you give your view on gender as part of it's application to weed out transphobes before they can even make an account (I'm not even sure how many instances even still use applications).

Brigading? I've seen more links dropped in hexbear threads in the like 2 weeks y'all have been federated than I did in 3 months on lemmygrad

Trolling? Y'all literally have an emote of a fucking pig shitting on its own testicles, what trolling can lemmygrad even conjure to compare to that

"being ok with wishing death on the people of Nato" this is the most baffling one, y'all literally have an emote dedicated to this kind of comment that has a nuke symbol and says "Please, Xi" that's used to say that the entirety of the west should be nuked and destroyed which is the exact same of comments made on lemmygrad just without the emote, and that's just the ones that use that emote in particular.

It may look like I'm saying I told you so because, well, I am, I told you so. I would be extremely surprised if that shithead of a mod gets removed, I put it at about the same chances as blahaj refederating with lemmygrad (so never, lol).

*I'm sure lemmygrad could be better in some way about this, but at the same time 11% of our users were trans when we did a survey 2 months ago, which I hope means that it's generally still a good, safe instance for our trans comrades (P.S. WE LOVE OUR TRANS COMRADES)

Edit: some further evidence of shit lib behavior, when she originally defederated lemmygrad it's not like she put effort to remain federated like y'all did, she dropped 2 (two) comments deep in some random ass thread where she called us tankies, this person was never going to put in the same kind of effort that y'all were going to, forgot about this until after I made the post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/501598 https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/501598 their instance is struggling so here's a screenshot if you can't load them

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[–] IzyaKatzmann@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah it definitely could have been predicted, and was by others. I want to say even then it may have made sense to go through with it to have the experience to quell any concerns some might have but I'm not as sure about that as I once was.

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[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (12 children)

ELI Boomer: Why is 196 so popular and/or such a big thing? I understand that the rule says you should post something before leaving. But this results in typical meme community except the post titles are "rule" or a play on that word.

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I didn't know shit about this instance before federation, but a lot of our trans comrades wanted to make it work, which was a good reason to give it a go.

Although the fact they had defedded the Grad was always a bad sign, I agree

[–] forcequit@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (11 children)

idk Ada seemed to genuinely be trying. The comm specific mod yeah sure they can eat the poop off the pigs balls, but idk it feels like the admin was put between a rock and a hard place kinda.

Yeah yeah libshit this and that, but were it not for 196 I'd imagine hexbear would still be federated, and 'grad would never have been defederated in the first place? Maybe I'm giving them too much credit but again, I saw nothing of concern from Ada that couldn't be attributed to having rabid anticommunists in her ear

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

idk Ada seemed to genuinely be trying.

You're obviously much more charitable than me, I am no longer willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.

I could be wrong, but I think she knows exactly what she's doing.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My interpretation is more charitable, but not exactly good. I think she's conflict averse and very aware that c/196 is most of the instance's users/traffic; dicking around with their guy would create her a lot of enemies very quickly, many of which might be enmeshed in her life in one way or another.

But what would it really matter if any of these interpretations were correct, the actions taken wouldn't change.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

But what would it really matter if any of these interpretations were correct, the actions taken wouldn't change.

Yeah, very true.

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