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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

This thing about the hashing doesn't pass the sniff test for me in terms of evidence.

Per the submitted ECO, the configuration.ini file created during install of Electionware Additional Reporting module is a unique file for each customer install. Because this file is unique to each customer install, this file needs to be listed as a dynamic file in order for the hash verification results to match.

Like yeah, no shit it has to be considered dynamic unless you're using the same fucking hash for every fucking machine out there which is far more egregious than having a hash being listed as dynamic because, get this, it would be different for each system.

So I don't know, this sounds bog standard to me and indeed didn't affect things like voting tallies. People keep making hay about this, but until I see a lot more damning evidence, this sounds like people making the voting software actually doing the right thing.

I don't know, maybe that's just me. I am of the mind that a lot of us just don't want to face how deeply fucked in the head so many of the US populace are or how broken our voting systems already were beyond electronic voting. People have been getting dumped from voter rolls right before the election for decades, voting locations are shut down and people wait in long lines, we work people non-stop and don't give days off for election days and are shocked when young people, highly dependent on their new jobs, can't show up to vote. They didn't need to rig electronic voting when shit like gerrymandering, kicking folks of voter roles, scrutinizing signatures, and pretending like they have to be super sure people are who they say they are all results in a ton of fucking people being denied a chance to actually vote and have their vote matter.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The claims can be audited. I was hoping to see subpoenas or something after this broke then was expanded on in the article I linked here. But no, we have a handful of lawsuits getting slow rolled. I suspect we will get an answer in the form of paper ballots disappearing should someone manage to trigger a full recount. It's been months and this regime has no issue destroying evidence.

I thought about this for a while and realistically, if this happened, the only way you're going to prove it after the fact is if one of the nerds who helped flips or one of the rich shot callers kept evidence. Incompetence of DOGE could save the day but really where are there still going to be logs in another 6 months?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Well the thing that always sticks with me about "the nerds" is that each state runs its own elections and as such, has multiple election cybersecurity teams all over each state. The idea that they had what amounts to literally thousands of these nerds all over the country that all were in on it, all used zero-day exploits that were unknown, and all kept their mouths shut is just, well... it's definitely bordering on absurdly impossible for that many people to be involved and no one is popping off with evidence. Further security teams aren't just one person, so it would have to be every single person on every single security team and if there is one thing nerds with security credentials take seriously, it's security!

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 hours ago

You're misunderstanding the topology, go read that again. They just needed a map of machines and polling stations(thanks Russia those hacks where you did "nothing" may have yielded Intel). If you targeted just the swing states I don't see any reason you'd need more than a dosen warm bodies. Can clean up most of those lose ends later, they don't all have to be smart, skids like big balls can deploy an exploit.