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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 73 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The hardest part about making a browser seems to be restraining yourself just to make a fucking browser.

Customer: I want a browser please

Chrome: Here's a browser with embedded spyware and blatant disdain for your RAM

Firefox: here's your browser with embedded AI for some reason

Brave: Here's a browser with embedded cryptoslop and a dodgy CEO

Opera: What's up gamers here's your browser with tacticool RGB bloat

Microsoft: Here's your spyware AI that sort of also works as a browser that might actually cause Ted Kaczynski to rise from the grave and kill again, to the thunderous applause of all.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

To be fair, Chrome is actually pretty good at some things. I noticed when building an infinite feed of Lemmy posts, Chrome required zero optimization to render hundreds of posts at once. Safari was a different story. I had to rebuild my feed of posts with some pretty complex list virtualization to get Safari to be performant.

I wish I remembered what Firefox was like at the time, but I don’t. Possible it’s also very performant. But as a developer, Chrome is way more enjoyable to build for.

This is NOT an endorsement for Chrome. I absolutely hate Google. Just wanted to provide my perspective as a developer. And maybe that also explains the high ram usage of Chrome since there’s some ✨magic✨ optimization happening that Safari lacks.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

True, but part of that is Google developed some "web standards" for Chrome only, and forced the others to adapt or be left behind. Also in some cases, websites work better if you just spoof your user agent to Chrome and get those "improved" pages

[–] impedans@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Yeah I've got to say, as a developer that Chrome and chromium forks are way more consistent and performant - and easier to develop for.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I was editing a very large confluence page a little while ago in FF and was getting frustrated with how slow it was getting. I figured it must be better on edge, surely there's been a bunch of optimizations there for the whole thing to have been deemed viable.

Nope, FF was faster. By a decent margin, even. The editor was still usable in FF while edge struggled just to render it at all.

[–] funkyfarmington@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Oh Firefox, I still haven't moved on from that "study" which was just a ad for a TV show. I disable studies on every machine I touch now.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

I laughed at Opera. Most of these are spot on.