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Not many countries had to arm the person next to the coach driver to fight off natives defending their country against foreign invaders.
This obe didn't either. Staying home was usually an option.
No, no, no, this is all wrong. When we discuss immigration and the current situation in the US all Americans are European immigrants.
When we talk about the genocide of the natives Americans, it was done by Americans, Europeans had nothing to do with it.
;-)
Technically 85% correct now, after brexit ;p
I'm the times coaches like that became common it wasn't really safe to travel in most parts of the world.
Weren't these coaches a thing in the 19th century US, from which time the term comes? From what i could find quickly, Highway robbery became less of a thing in the UK and mainland Europe by the end of the 18th century.
No, but many needed to protect those passengers from bandits and other assorted outlaws.
Fun fact: Joseph Stalin first became known to Lenin when he organized the successful robbery of a bank stagecoach in Russia. The stagecoaches were heavily protected by armed men riding on the outside of the coach as well as riding horses alongside, but Stalin observed that they tended to relax their guard upon reaching a densely-populated city, on the assumption that revolutionaries would not be willing to injure or kill innocent bystanders.
This assumption was very wrong in Stalin's case. He had his people lob satchel bombs at the coach and riders after they reached the city, killing most of the guards as well as nearly 100 innocent bystanders in the vicinity. They made off with a huge amount of money, and Lenin congratulated Stalin although he had only planned the operation and not participated in it. The importance of delegation!
Huh, who knew that violent bank robbers who indiscriminately kill bystanders would ~~do a bunch of genocide after their violent takeover complete with secret police and gulags~~ I mean create the best goverbmont in history, praise USSR or something.
Look, stalin did a lot of things wrong, but robbing banks is pretty cool even with collateral damage.
Word? Lemme get your bank's address and the times you go, so I can rob it and shoot you in the fucking face in the process, y'know since killing innocent people in bank robberies is "cool" to you it should be pretty sweet for all involved. Put your money (or in this case, life) where your mouth is.
I'm actually unbanked!
Totally. Killing innocent people isnt morally sound.
So you mean coerced into complicity?
That is what cool means, yes. Learn to cope with complexity before getting pissy. If you're going to get precious about innocent dead, maybe talk more about cops and oligarchs.
Lol I'm not usually one to wish death on people but I hope you get killed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time by someone doing something "cool." You like it so much it just seems like it's wishing you well, even if that means death in your case.
Ive been attacked by fascists and cops on multiple occasions. I've been running for my life nonstop for twenty years. I have scars on just about every substantial portion of my body from things you dont consider violent, and scars on my empty heart from dead or irreparably ruined friends, ripped from me by institutions you consider innocent.
I live in a world of profound violence. I step out my front door each time knowing i could be killed, for any reason or none at all, by the protectors of your banks and their property. I go to sleep each night knowing i could be woken by a battering ram, and be dragged off to decades of torture if they don't kill me on the spot. I dream of friends lost to police dogs i only escaped by chance, dying of infected wounds in the literal shadow of a modern hospital in one of the wealthiest regions to have ever existed, because the bank says they don't deserve care and the triage nurse is sick of seeing them and the easy to get antibiotics were exhausted in animal agriculture to make your line-go-up probably before i was born
Violence against those systems is cool. It makes me happy. Collateral damage against those complicit isn't something i have strong opinions on, but if you don't see me as human, why should i waste my heart on compassion for your bourgoise ass? I dream of a couple months of red terror against your centuries of white. I think that's cool, even in circumstances where it fails to be too terribly good, like 1917.
You wanting me dead is nothing new. Your kind has wanted me dead since my parents threw me out, since i was a literal child. Your outrage only tells me you're afraid now. That you know your abbotoir is on fire, and you sold all the fire suppression systems to buy more cops. There will casualties and 'innocents' and even inmocents¹ who die in that fire. I will cherish the beauty and warmth of it all the same, and only wish that I had been the one to set it.
¹i remember being one of those! If you gave a shit, you were cheering on everything that damned me. As you are now. Why on earth does someone like you suddenly give a shit what i think? Why on earth do you think someone like you, representing a class and a world that threw me away like fucking trash, are entitled to it?
Oooh we got a badass over here lmao. I don't believe you btw, you're some keyboard warrior with an inflated sense of inportance.
You really think "guy standing in Erivansky Square while people indiscriminately bombed just so they could steal money" is "complicit?" Just simply existing near someone in a public square who is deigned a target by you is complicity? That's absolutely fucking stupid lmao, even tankies can't be this dumb. Your parents were right lmao, you suck. You think simply because I believe killing innocent bystanders indescriminately isn't "cool" that I'm afraid? You've clearly never heard of empathy or morals. You are a piece of shit, full stop, maybe if one of your loved ones dies in one of these "cool" attacks for simply walking next to a brinks truck at the wrong time you'll realize how objectively shitty you and your opinions are. Kindly fuck yourself in the eye.
The fact you're whining so much but totally disregarding even the possibility of police violence suggests you're just upset that someonw got money they weren't supposed to have.
Tbf I don't particularly care about the cops. Bank employees are certainly closer to the literal innocent bystanders than cops, though, and then of course there's poor Владимир who just so happened to be crossing the square to take ingredients for компот to his sick бабушка back home and BAM GRENADES just because some turd with a moustache needs money? Yeah, I feel worse for him than some cop, duh. Like half the casualties were just like dear departed Влад there, not cops, not even bank employees, this was akin to a mass shooting "but it's cool because it was done by a guy who agrees with you." You can pretend you're all holier than thou but you're an abject piece of shit lmao.
Did you literally just say "you're only complaining about innocent people being murdered in the street because you think stealing is bad?" You need to be institutionalized, you're clearly a a danger to yourself or others. Y'know, if you can pry yourself out of your mom's basement that is.
Why the fuck do you think you and people like you are entitled to my compassion, when you so freely wish death upon me?
I really should care if you die, i should be happy about it. By your own ~~admission~~ repeated assertion it would make me safer.
I don't, again, give a fuck either way-but you're arguing very aggressively that I should. Then scolding me for not having an opinion either way?
Also, not to be a pedant, but I never had a mom, my stepdads wife decided i was too queer and an NGMI as a child, and I grew up and cureently live in california; basements are only a thing in very very recent construction here.
Tbh I was putting you and your loved ones specifically in your favored situation hypothetically explicitly with the hope that personalizing it would make you understand what empathy is, but you're clearly incapable so, sucks to suck loser.
I never said I was going to kill you idiot, I said I hope one of your comrades does while doing something "cool." Why don't you want that? Don't you want to be "cool?" After all you were complicit by being in the area at the time they attacked, by your own admission you'd deserve it. OH is it because deep down you DO know that killing innocent bystanders for simply existing near a truck carrying money is bad but now you're too embarrassed to admit I'm right? It's ok child you don't have to respond, you can just go away. Or keep responding and I'll keep fucking with you, win win for me really.
Truly a fucking master of pedagogy. What is this technique called? Has anyone else ever failed to learn from you, or am i the first?
Everything you said was either murder apologia or ridiculous, why would I "care?" What are you 14?
Not what i asked.
But it is all you did. I hope you get the help you need.
Tbilisi bank robbery
Bonus fun fact: part of the reason for their success might be that one of the local police informants was … Stalin.
I'm starting to think this Stalin guy has some red flags.
There was once a theory that the reason for the difference in which side a vehicle is driving on the road today, stems from whether a country had many stretches of untamed wilderness with lots of bandits. So if there was a high likelihood that whoever you met on the road was a danger, the horsecart driver preferred passing them on the side of their sword arm (right hand as default), while if you did not have to take that into account, you would pass them on the left hand side.
The theory has now largely been abandonded as spurious, but it does remain a fact that there were dangerous stretches of roads in older times in Europe as well.
That's not what it was for. They fired a shotgun before turning onto a road. If two wagons came head to head on a crappy old western road it could cause hours of delay because the horses would have to be hitched to the back of one of the wagons a pull it all the way back to the crossroad.
What an interesting creative writing exercise