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[–] aramis87@fedia.io 189 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I mean, I'm souring on the Democrats because they haven't fucking done anything to divert us from this disaster.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The Dems are fairly low on my list of the blame game. But they're still on the list!

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 73 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They could do the bare minimum.

  1. Stop approving his cabinet members.
  2. Stop any finance bill.
  3. Stop any sales to Israel.
  4. Push candidates with a plan to stop kid rapist.
  5. Sure up their base with a plan.
  6. Say what you will do with the new broken rules.
  7. Abolish ICE
  8. Tax the wealthy
  9. Ban stock trading
  10. Ban Citizens United decision
  11. Expand the court or destroy its ass
  12. Rewrite the constitution

Fuck, pick at least 1 and I don't get paid $200k with life time benefits and insider knowledge.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Stop any sales to Israel.

Ha. They'll never do that. It's the only policy they didn't abandon when they got pushback.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Bare minimum is all people want to see. That is why I want democratic socialism but most people are scared off by socialism.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What is called "democratic socialism" these days mostly just amounts to a market economy with a reasonable level of social security and public infrastructure.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Bare minimum is all people want to see.

Democrats would rather have permanent dictatorship run by a pedo than deliver the bare minimum.

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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

I would like to see Democrats publicly proposing that we will hold ICE agents accountable, with a plan that would actually work - we rendition them to the home nations of their victims.

SCOTUS is so corrupt that the US justice system needs to be bypassed entirely when bringing ICE agents to justice. But if you're an ICE agent that is operating a concentration camp where Venezuelan citizens are killed? Your ass should be sent off to Venezuela for trial. SCOTUS will doubtlessly protect the Nazi thugs, but Venezuela will hold them accountable. Let them rot in some hellhole prison down there.

I want politicians to be talking about this now, to make clear that crimes against humanity will not be forgiven or forgotten.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're very high on mine. They created the conditions that allowed Trump to take power. They've fought tooth and nail to keep everyone who might have been able to prevent this disaster away from the levers of power. The Democrats are the rachet preventing the rest of the country from stopping (or gasp reversing) the Republican-led march to fascism.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They're active participants in the fascist take over. They normalize fascism and act as controlled opposition to keep those who would oppose it out of power and out of the conversation

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[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If Joe Biden had put Donald Trump behind bars on his first day of office for the January 6 attack we wouldn't be here right now. Everything good he ever did is irrelevant because he failed to stop the coup

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Everything good he ever did is irrelevant because he failed to stop the coup

I wouldn't even blame him if he had honestly failed, but he didn't even try

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why would he try?

The Democrats banked on the idea that Trump is the easiest candidate to win against, despite Clinton loosing to him in 2016. And it was clear with Biden. He wasn't voted because people liked him. He was voted because people were dissatisfied with Trumps first term. And Biden managed to fuck up so badly, that people rather chose Trump for a second round than to deal with Biden or Harris, who stated explicitly that she will do everything like Biden.

The Democrats thought that Trump is perfect as he lets them get away with being the worst version of themselves and they'd rather see another Trump presidency than actually provide good policies for the people.

[–] bilb@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Joe Biden has run for president so many times and had never really gotten close to being nominated because he sucks. For his entire career he has been one of the shittiest, most conservative, most bloodthirsty democrats who loved every project in which he could work with the good folks across the aisle. He finally got the gig (when he was losing his mental faculties) because the media, party, and cowardly electorate couldn't stomach Bernie Sanders and nobody liked the rest of the field. (Harris didn't even make it to the first primary elections.) A coordinated drop out and endorsement of Biden of everyone but Biden before super Tuesday sealed the deal. Some people associated Biden with fond memories of the Obama years, but nobody really thought he was an inspiring candidate. I'd bet if not for covid 19, Trump would not have lost.

But I'm supposed to pretend he was the next FDR or something because of some bare minimum infrastructure and industry bills. Give me a fucking break.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The house is burning down. I'm obviously blaming the arsonists, but I'm also lying blame at the firefighters who decided to not do their duty.

[–] wagesj45@fedia.io 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Hey listen, the wild bear is the one mauling everyone in the school. Blame the bear! Yes, we placed honey in the open door and smeared the children's faces with fresh salmon, but it's the bear that is eating the children. Please donate to help me scold the bear."

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't like comparing Trump and co to wild animals, simply because they are so much more malicious.

[–] wagesj45@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hard to argue that. But Trump et al are significantly stupider than bears, so it probably evens out.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hey remember those bear proof trash cans that turned out to be tourist proof as well? How long do you think it'd take Trump et al to open one?

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago

When they get the ball, they won't play offense. When they lose the ball, they won't play defense.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 42 points 1 week ago

Dems are perfectly happy with feeling smug in their political moral superiority and their insider trading. Why take power, and have to work hard? Chuck Schumer would rather compose stern letters to people who can't read.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago

Well, no, but let's not forget they did a whole lot to contribute to it. Remember Joe Biden? Yeah... We could have had Bernie.

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Worse still, they seem eager to contribute to it. Just look at all the 2028 hopefuls lining up to validate Republican talking points about immigrants and trans people

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well the Overton window has moved so far to the right that the Democrats now sit where the Republican's did 16 years ago.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

And they're still chasing republicans rightward.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They do seem to be pointing fingers at their voter base…

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, it's what they do instead of introspection.

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[–] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Voters made sure to put them in the minority in all levels of government.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (45 children)

What did they do to get people to vote for them? Because they spent the last 4 years doing the "Everything is fine" meme while everyone's quality of life rapidly started to deteriorate. Even candidates in Democratic strongholds saw their numbers nose dive last year because they have nothing to offer people other than "we aren't Trump".

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Because they spent the last 4 years doing the “Everything is fine” meme while everyone’s quality of life rapidly started to deteriorate.

If only it were just that. They made it perfectly clear that they lied about all of the individual benefits in build back better and never had any intention at all of passing them. They made it clear that they won't increase the minimum wage and that it will remain stuck at 7.25 forever. They didn't revisit the public option. They didn't protect Roe. They didn't protect democracy with the John Lewis Voting Rights Act. They didn't reschedule cannabis. The only person who could count on democrats to do what they said they would was netanyahu.

Democrats have a massive credibility problem and they earned it.

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[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not only that but they completely threw away any semblance of morality with the Gaza genocide and they allowed Trump to get away with the January 6th attack enabling his return

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (26 children)

Exactly. But we still have weasels even on here defending their genocide-loving asses. The Democratic party needs to be purged or burned to the ground. We're in a two party system. And the Democratic party is currently the biggest barrier to progress in the country. It is fundamentally beyond reformation. Only by burning it to ashes will leave space for an actual left wing party to rise.

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