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[–] grue@lemmy.world 76 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Reminder: the traditional "9 to 5" workday that is considered "full time" includes lunch. If you're not getting paid for it or are working 8 to 5 or whatever, you're getting swindled.

You might say it's "normal" now, but it only becomes normalized because workers fail to hold the line.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

but it only becomes normalized because ~~workers fail to hold the line.~~ the rich business owners in charge have been busting unions and brainwashing people with anti-union propaganda for decades.

Unions have been attempted more times than they've succeeded, not because of workers failing, but because powerful people have power and will do whatever dirty tactics they can to keep it.

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Because unions stopped shooting back and bombing. Because when cops and Pinkertons shoot strikers the state turns a blind eye.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Unions have been attempted more times than they’ve succeeded

I get what you mean, but I can't resist the urge to point out that that's basically a truism. The number of successes must be greater or equal than the number of attempts by definition, since a success without an attempt is not possible.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would anyone have a reference on this? (I failed to find one. Internet searches now suck.)

[–] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago

My full time job is considered part-time because of this. Plus I just found out we don’t receive jury duty compensation because we’re seasonal workers that’ll just get fired at the end of the season anyways.

[–] parricc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It keeps eroding away. I've had skilled jobs where the expectation was 8-5 without any breaks at all. "If you need to eat, you can do it at your desk while you're working."

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 points 1 week ago

That's why they make it 9-5:30