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Cuomo says key factor in his primary loss was Mamdani’s support from young, Jewish and pro-Palestinian voters (forward.com)
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“I would wager that in the primary, more than 50% of the Jewish people voted for Mamdani,” Cuomo told the crowd of around 450 at a breakfast event Sunday at the Hampton Synagogue.

He believed they were influenced by Mamdani’s appeal to younger and first-time voters who, Cuomo said, view criticism of Israel as opposing the policies of the Israeli government in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. “They are pro-Palestinian, and they don’t consider it being anti-Israel,” he said.

“We have the largest Jewish population outside of Israel, and I was proud to be the strongest advocate,” Cuomo continued. “But many, especially younger people, don’t consider saying anti-Israel is different than being antisemitic.”

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[–] pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone 133 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Because it’s not. You can be critical of the government of Israel without making it about the Jewish religion.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago

The Israelis holding protests are heroes. I love seeing news about that. They understand that it’s not about ideology; it’s about being a decent human being.

[–] Airowird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can also be for someone's right to live without being racist / hating jews.

This whole "pro-Palestine = antisemite" spiel is getting old.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The whole "pro-Palestine = antisemite” was a naked appeal to Racism.

Those who are pro-People (Humanists) don't care about the ethnicity of the aggressors or the victims, only the inherent character of the actions being committed.

It's only the Racists who would judge the actions differently depending on the ethnicity of the aggressors or the victims.

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Indeed. Fuck Israel and its leaders, but Jewish people who oppose the massacre living in Israel and abroad did nothing wrong and deserve protection from antisemitism

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago

cumuo already used the anti-semitic angle to blame jewish people, albeit a section of the group.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Remember when the U.S. entered an antisemetic war in Afghanistan? Or when Trump launched those antisemetic strikes on Iran recently?

If those weren't anti-Semitism, I don't see how we could say Israel's actions of slaughtering other semites are bad, is anti semtic

[–] v_krishna@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I dont think Afghanistani or Persian ethnic people are semitic. Iraq would probably count but probably a majority of Muslims in the world aren't semitic.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago

Oh Dari is Persian based isn't it, for some reason my brain was thinking semetic. Farsi and Arabic using the same alphabet for the most part ties them together in my head. But that doesn't mean they are close, clearly Spanish, Portuguese, and English use the same alphabet, but while Spanish and Portuguese or Italian are closer, English is much further. (Just a few letters are different)

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure neither Afghans nor (most) Iranians are semites. Non-Jewish Semitic peoples mostly inhabit what is now the Arab world.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

And the horn of Africa, although the term is obselete for modern usage, it only really applies to historical peoples.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people

[–] witty_username 6 points 3 days ago

Indeed. Antizionism is simply not antisemitism

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Or people of Jewish ancestry. That’s why antisemitism is not Judeaphobia. Jewish is an ethnicity as well as a religion. It’s a combination term for religious persecution and/or racism.

I’m genetically part Ashkenazi Jew according to 23andMe. I don’t practice Judaism, and my ancestors moved to the US to escape persecution by the Bolsheviks in Eastern Europe prior to the founding of Israel. More Jews live outside of Israel than within.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Nobbody is able to distinguish Jewish people from white people these days.

Ask any person on the street what a "Jew" looks like and they will shrug their shoulders.

Same with Italians, Irish, and other racial constructs people used to discriminate in the past.

[–] troglodyke@lemmy.federate.cc 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is patently false and just a rehash of the same old attitude we've seen so frequently before.

If you're going to be a bigot at least try and be original

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If I present you with 5 images of people you would be able to tell which is Jewish and which is not?

[–] troglodyke@lemmy.federate.cc 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're conflating colourism with racism, I'm guessing you're in the US and your primary exposure to racism is via colourism?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Regardless of ease of stereotyping, Ashkenazi Jews have a unique genetic profile. There are certain medical treatments that are ineffective as a result.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Of course ancestry can be genetically determined. However purely from your physical appearance nobody would be able to tell you are an Ashkenazi Jew.

These are some images which pop up when searching "Ashkenazi Jew":

Would you be able to tell their ancestry from their appearance?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Are you saying someone can’t be discriminated against for their ethnicity if they don’t look like their heritage? There are Jewish cultural traditions and customs that are no longer exclusive to the religion. Surnames are also a pretty big clue.