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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 218 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Dude was wearing a 20lb chain while his wife was getting an MRI.

She freaked, and yelled for him, and he ran into the room while the machine was still on and fucking died.

This is 100% their fault, I could almost see an argument that the door needs a lock to prevent idiots with 20l s of metal around their neck from running in, but you don't want to lock everyone out in case there's an issue.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You could put an airlock like metal detector door that only opens the second door, if the first door is closed and there's nothing magnetic inside. People could still go in quickly in emergencies, but nothing that makes it worse can enter.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (3 children)

As much as the machines cost, something like that wired up with a metal detector so that if the machine is on and there's metal in the airlock it will never open would actually be a good solution....

But it would take a society that values human life and absence of suffering over money. Because like someone else pointed out, the hospital ain't the one paying to fix the machine.

Maybe Canada would be interested?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 week ago

This basically never happens. You want to spend billions guarding against humanity stupidity? Good luck with that.

But it would take a society that values human life and absence of suffering over money.

🙄

[–] SolOrion@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

idk, maybe the hospital has insurance for idiocy. But the people that broke it almost certainly can't afford an MRI machine, so they ain't paying.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You could spend billions to implement crazy solutions for every possible scenario.

Or you could just tell the guy not to go in there.

[–] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

“When you make something idiot-proof, the world builds a better idiot.”

[–] Scrawny@reddthat.com 7 points 1 week ago

You can idiot proof anything but the world just makes better idiots

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

That would not cost billions. Not even close. It would certainly be far cheaper than the cost of repair.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did you forget that thousands of hospitals exist just in the US? Or at least did before 2025.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not all of them have MRI machines, and regardless of its cheaper than repairing them.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hundreds probably do though. I don't know. I've never heard of anything like this happening. I think it's probably exceedingly rare. I had an MRI and the number of times I heard and read the warnings about metal was exhausting. It feels almost impossible that someone could not know about that specific danger.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

That would not cost billions. Not even close. It would certainly be far cheaper than the cost of repair.

"I have no idea what I'm talking about so I'll just assume everything is cheap and easy"

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah, let them stupids die. I don't want to risk non idiots lives for the chance of saving a moron.

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I apologize if im completely misunderstanding, but what "non idiots" are at risk, in what circumstances? Shouldn't there always be a tech?

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No apology necessary.

There are emergencies that could happen anywhere, including in an MRI room. Dealing with emergencies, ease of ingress and egress is paramount.

The proposed solutions would hamper access to these rooms during emergencies, putting patients and techs in harms way (the non idiots), in the name of preventing a moron from giving themselves a Darwin award.

I think it would be a net negative, ie. more people would die/get hurt trying to make an idiot proof enclosure.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 44 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Just for your information, the machine, meaning the magnet, is ALWAYS on.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Unless something gets stuck. Then it is shut down and restarted after the thing is removed. Takes hours though, I think the startup was four hours.

They had that happen at the hospital my father worked at, the cleaning lady brought in a stool with steel legs. They tried to remove it by force first, but four men could not do it.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Takes hours and is horrifically expensive.

Huh, I thought this was nonsense, but googling proved you're right. Very cool TIL!

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Surely dialed down in between scans?

[–] saimen@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

No. They are usually superconducting magnets in persistent mode:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_magnet

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

No it is only turned off during maintenance or by an emergency kill switch.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’m just thinking about the poor woman. She’s forever going to be haunted with the knowledge that she was the one who called him into the room, and thus led to his death. His decision to come in wasn’t thought out, but that probably won’t relieve her feelings of guilt for having called him in. Such a tragic story.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago

Uh she was in the room likely still on the bed laying down considering the story given. So like she'll have some rowdy memories of dude getting mushed into a machine a speed then slowly suffocate if they weren't lucky enough to hit their head really really fucking hard.

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

There is a lot of conflicting information in the articles im finding about this incident, from her shouting and him running in to him entering the room with the technician, and the technician knew about the chain and had commented on it.

Lmk if you need some examples, but theres a lot.

Im (cynically) inclined to believe that the hospital were the first to give statements and did a quick its-not-our-fault response. Then more people were interviewed. Ill always side with the working class (imo everyone who is not ruling class) rather than the corporations. And in the US the hospital is a corporation for sure.

There's some gross racial spin surrounding this too, see pic below. It was a weighted padlock steel necklace for his weight training, not whatever is implied by yahoo.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Metal detector on the door to the room.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago

this seems like the obvious solution to me and it's kinda wacky that it's not already standard, just have a loud as fuck alarm go off if metal goes through the first door leading to the general scanner area.

just gotta have enough distance between the detector and the scanner, so there's time for people to intervene.

[–] Bot@sub.community 9 points 1 week ago

Don’t forget to pay the repairing fee for the machine

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That door should absolutely be locked while in operation. That door being forced open should be an e-stop event.

Someone could walk in there with a firearm or a bowey knife or anything.

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then the door will always be locked, unless the MRI is being serviced, as the magnet is always active. Kinda kills the point of the machine, no? That said they could put in more safeguards for sure. Though you would think all the signs on and near the door, and the extensive explanation you get, would be enough. But here we are.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

No, signs aren't enough obviously. This is definitely not the first time we've heard of stories of people coming in with guns, chairs what have you.

It's not everyday, so maybe it's not warranted... But if you look at the things we apply security to we secure against a lot of things that never happen

Given the apparent danger of the device. There's still plenty of options for security.

How about a set of man trap doors and a metal detector. The outside pair is unlocked. When you step through the metal detector, If a safe amount of metal is detected the outside door is locked and the inside doors unlock.

You don't need a very sensitive metal detector The extra construction around two doors, and a small door controller / locks would be super insignificant to the price of the machine.

If you use cam locks the emergency egress would still be fine. Maybe you'd need to sense the outer door being shut to make sure somebody doesn't hold the door for someone else.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

His wife told News 12 Long Island in a recorded interview that she was undergoing an MRI on her knee when she asked the technician to get her husband to help her get off the table. She said she called out to him.

Where does it say he ran in? I Kean, what you say sounds right, but this doesn't read like "freaking out"

Edit: Sounds like she did not freak out, but called to him to help her stand up after it was complete (bad knee), but before he was authorized to enter. This seems more like an honest mistake and tragedy. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/20/health/mri-machine-death-long-island