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even as an american, american cheese is disgusting.
I can taste the emulsifier they add to it so it "melts" nicer.
I will disagree with pasta and cheddar, though. Mac and Cheese is wonderful. (well. from scratch mac and cheese. blue boxes need not apply)
I was with them till you hit me "you don't like grandma Emma's mac n cheese?".
Kraft Singles aren't American Cheese (like literally, they're legally not allowed to call it that). I wish people would stop associating the two.
Actual good American cheeses exist. A favorite of mine is Cooper Sharp American.
Kraft singles are the standard "American cheese", which is legally not actually cheese.
But yes, there are plenty of other perfectly good cheeses made in America. I think the US is best known for Vermont cheddar.
To be fair to American cheese, I think the fact that the only thing anyone says about it is that it’s not legally cheese gives people the impression it’s spooky chemicals. It’s really not so bad. Here’s the recipe:
8 ounces solid mild cheddar
¼ cup nonfat milk powder
2 tablespoons tapioca starch
⅜ teaspoon salt
2 tablespoons butter
¼ cup dry white wine
¼ cup water
In the US perhaps. Outside of the US it is mostly known for those Kraft singles.
There is a time and place for Kraft mac & cheese.
yhea, and it is making it with real cheese.
Ive grown to really enjoy Kraft singles on burgers and grilled cheese over the last several years. I come from the land of Tillimook cheese but personally can't stand it on the above mentioned items because it's just so damned greasy when you melt it and waters down the taste of everything else with grease flavor.
That "grease" is noting but butterfat, which in my opinion has a very nice flavor.
I'm confused, both of those are American cheese.
i meant American and American, not as cheese singles that is barely legally cheese
Well maybe i need to try cheddar made outside of the US on a burger to see how I like it. Kraft cheese is American cheese so I thought you meant the "style" of cheese not the country of origin. From what I've heard, Tillamook cheese is pretty popular in a lot of places though
In my experience, there's not much reason to try a burger outside the US.
Tillamook is my go-to brand, by the way. Their ice cream is unbeatable, especially their Sea Salt & Honeycomb Toffee, which is the most amazing ice cream I've ever tasted.
I also don't love a sweaty cheese on my burger, even if it's Tillamook.
Tillamook is good quality, but their cheese is so sweet.
Tillamook and Umpqua (another local brand) are my go-to for ice cream, I just don't care for their cheddar when it's cooked on burgers though I do like the shredded version on pasta. Their cheddar is great on sandwiches though!
It's literally not, go read the label again.
You mean an LLM can be wrong? Ya don't say. You're actually demonstrating the issue that I have... Since LLMs take their data from shit people say, it thinks American cheese = Kraft Singles, because that's what people seem to think. Whether or not is true is irrelevant to it.
No label in that photo btw. Read a label itself.
From the wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraft_Singles
"Pasteurized Prepared Cheese Product"
Is Wikipedia wrong too? "Kraft singles" is used whether the brand is Kraft or not just like Kleenex and Kool-aid. My previous screenshot doesn't even mention Kraft by name, which you obviously didn't notice before ranting about how "wrong" AI is and how smart you are. Jesus christ dude...
If what's pictured there is Kraft Singles Pasteurized Prepared Cheese Product, then yeah, that photo is inaccurate for the article. Read the actual text of the article that I quoted above and you ignored.
This hasn't ever been the case in anywhere I've ever been. But maybe I don't consume garbage faux cheese, so I'm out of the loop in terms of lingo.
This is a dumb argument, but it was decided by the FDA decades ago.
Wow how amazing that everyone and everything is wrong on the topic and only you know the real truth despite not being able to demonstrate what American cheese actually is if not this.
It must be a giant conspiracy between me, Wikipedia, Google, and Big Cheese to make you look foolish over something that you just admitted you never possess or consume. Thank goodness we have a seasoned expert here in the comments.
Bro what are you even talking about? Have you still not read the text that I copy and pasted directly from Wikipedia?
Someone mistakenly uploaded a photo of what appears to be Kraft Singles Pasteurized Dairy Product to the article about "American cheese." No conspiracy needed, just human error.
The page for "Kraft Singles" is very clear about whether or not the FDA allows them to call it "cheese" (they do not).
So then show us what American cheese is oh great one. All you seem to be able to do is claim that everyone else, including your own source, is wrong on the topic while being completely unable to demonstrate what American cheese is despite multiple requests.
Based on your original comment, you seem to be under the false impression that American cheese is any cheese that's made in the United States, which is quite hilarious considering how smug and holier-than-thou you've acted during this whole exchange.
This is such a weird exchange. The attitude and unnecessary snarkiness started with you. At most, I matched your energy.
If you've got a problem with anything I've said, take it up with the FDA
My "attitude and snarkiness" of posting a picture of American cheese with zero text? You're so deluded and I find it quite comical.
Why are you still unable to demonstrate here what American cheese is? It should be so simple for someone with such vast knowledge of the world.
Mmmmmm cheese.
You're certainly behaving like a person that finds something comical lol. You're really mad. It's kind of crazy.
Weird hill to die on, dude.
Oh and p.s. Kraft Singles still isn't American cheese. We're on the Internet, I think you can confirm this and then figure out the rest. Not going to indulge you in some attempt at a "gotcha" when I don't define fucking "American cheese" the way you want.
Go figure it out yourself
mac and cheese is something else, you wouldn't put parm on that. but practically every other sauce needs some real parm on top.
You might want to reconsider the first part. While you don't want parm to be the primary cheese, a little parm added to homemade Mac and cheese really steps it up.
Just don't use that nasty crap in a green can. Real Parmesan or GTFO.
They mean all cheese manufactured inside the United States, not the product titled “American Cheese,” as in the yellow slices like Kraft Singles, etc.
Go read a Kraft Singles label from any point in the last two decades and show me where it calls itself "cheese."
Go read the comment again
Kraft Singles are not titled "American Cheese." Go read a label and come back. They're not legally allowed to call it "cheese."
Sodium citrate
Oh that's relatively harmless. Sodium coming from salt as a metal or thru a precipitation reaction, and citrate is something derived from a fungus.
Thats not how chemistry works.
You mean like mixing citric acid which is usually obtained from a fungus and sodium bicarbonate? That reaction creates CO2 gas the carbonate part of sodium bicarbonate. That leaves only the sodium after it bonds to the citrate ion which leaves extra H2O behind which is just water. That? But you could do all sorts of other reactions to get the sodium to come off something else.
This guy Nile Reds
It's also the main electrolyte ingredient in a few electrolyte drinks.
But what are electrolytes?
Here's the Wikipedia article on them: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/articles/Electrolyte
For simplicity's sake, they are salts, acid, or bases that can suspend themselves in a polar liquid, like water, and can conduct electricity.
They help maintain the body's ability to hydrate, and are critical in maintaining nerve and muscle functions, since they are electric tissues.
Was trying to do the idiocracy thing
Yep! I have a container of it to make otherwise non-melting cheeses melt smoothly.