The 1964 Harlem Riot was one of a number of race-based uprisings/ protests that took place in multiple cities across the United States during the 1960s. As elsewhere Harlem blacks reacted to racial discrimination, segregation, police brutality and social injustices that dominated their lives. They resorted to violence to express their disgust with the system.
Ironically the Harlem Riot occurred just two weeks after the 1964 Civil Rights Act was signed into law by President Lyndon Johnson. The act, which outlawing discrimination based on race, color, sex, religion, and nationality, was the most sweeping measure ever adopted by the nation to guarantee racial justice. The irony lies in the fact that while the Civil Rights Act made it illegal to discriminate against a U.S. citizen based on race or color, the discriminatory socioeconomic systems and structures long in place in the nation did not change with this new law.
The Harlem uprising began on July 16, 1964 when 15-year-old James Powell was shot and killed by white off-duty police Lieutenant Thomas Gilligan. The Harlem community was infuriated by the murder which it viewed as an unnecessary example of police brutality. Many Harlemites were convinced that Officer Gilligan, a war veteran and experienced police officer, could have found a way to arrest and subdue Powell without using deadly force.
The first two days following the shooting saw peaceful protesting in Harlem and other areas of New York City, New York. However, on July 18, some of the protesters went to the Harlem Police Station, calling for the resignation or termination of Officer Gilligan. Police officers were on guard outside the building, and as tensions grew, some in the crowd began throwing bricks, bottles, and rocks at the officers who waded into the crowd using their nightsticks. When word of the confrontation spread rioting ensued first in Harlem and then spread into Bedford-Stuyvesant, the black and Puerto Rican section of Brooklyn.
The race riot in the two boroughs of New York City lasted six days. It included breaking windows, looting, vandalism, and setting a variety of local businesses on fire. When the rebellion ended on July 22, one black resident was killed. There were more than 100 injuries, 450 arrests, and around $1 million in property damage.
The Harlem uprising was the beginning of a series of violent confrontations with police in more than a dozen cities throughout the North including Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; the New Jersey cities of Jersey City, Paterson, and Elizabeth; as well as Chicago (Dixmoor) Illinois, making it the most violent in terms of urban rioting since 1919. These rebellions as well as civil rights protests mainly in the South, helped designate the summer of 1964 as the Long, Hot Summer.
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I learned about the early 90s industrial group Consolidated yesterday. They seem like a really interesting group that would have been on Hexbear if it existed 30 years ago. They're experimental left punk hip hop industrial. I read on Wikipedia that they don't consider their musical cultural product, their songs are often barely songs, sometimes just like an essay on the environmental destruction of the fishing industry read over a sparse beat or reminding the audience George Poppy Bush spent three decades tied to the CIA before selling Desert Storm to the country
I listened to their album Play More Music, which is a series of "regular" songs interspersed with recordings from their live shows. But what's interesting about it is they used to keep a mic stand in the audience during their live shows so the audience could participate in the show, so the live show parts aren't the band, but are audience members having passionate political arguments about abortion or veganism lol, it's a great little anthropological insight into activist discussions in the early 90s. The Male Movement is a great example, where defensive male audience members are defending their right to slam dance (mosh) while being confronted by women telling them to fuck off, all over metal guitar while intercutting clips from commentators on Macho Man Randy Savage WWF fights.
I don't really know if the music is for me necessarily, but hearing these discussions being hashed out in a public forum seems really cool I would have gone to one of these shows for sure.
This is funny cuz at all the hardcore and metal shows I've been to recently, the pit has been been full of women and enbies. I fucking love moshing
Slam dancing isn't moshing. Hardcore kids can take moshing from my cold dead hands
Slam is a derivative of death metal but calling it slam dancing doesn't make them less annoying
Slam dancing is what they called moshing in the 80s
I never knew this
Im guessing what youre thinking of is Hardcore Dancing. That's the windmills and ninja kicks and shit
We also called that slam dancing because people into slam metal did it
would love to hear you elaborate on the differences pretty please?
Moshing = karate kicks, windmills, two stepping, crowd killing (intentionally running into the people on the pit border, kicking and punching people). Usually seen at hardcore/slam shows, but seen more at death metal type shows since theres been heavy crossover between death metal and hardcore
Slam Dancing = push moshing, shoving people, circle pitting. Usually metal shows
At least I'm p sure thats the difference I am old it used to be hardcore dancing and moshing when I grew up. I am a hardcore dancing hater personally
two stepping is cool and acceptable
I have always heard the exact opposite of this
I could totally have it backwards but I'm pretty sure its correct because "slam dancing" implies slamming into eachother I think. But really ive never heard slam dancing used, I feel like its mostly an 80s/90s relic, I think the terms change up too or might take on different meanings depending on what scene you're in
It appears to be a localization of the term, since people i know IRL agree with me but basically nowhere online agrees with me. Either way don't punch me
interesting. I don't know much about that musical scene but I was at a King Gizzard show and it was really fun up front.
I'd say the mose intense it got was light Slam Dancing and that was fine by me lol. First time doing that kinda thing. I thought it was called moshing but would actually not be interested in moshing as you define it XD
Oh yeah, there will inevitably be some kinda slam dancing/pogoing going on at a lot of shows within the rock genre, can totally see that at a gizz show for some of their heavier songs, it would just vary in intensity like you're saying
Yeah I am not a fan of moshing/hardcore dancing. Too macho, and I think there are a lot of people who use it as an excuse to intentionally hurt people. And it seems like a lot of the younger people who do it now just see that violent part modeled so theres like way more crowd killing these days, I think it's dumb as hell
This is a pretty ridiculous/extreme example of crowd killing tw -lots of kicking and punching people. Ive never seen it that bad at shows Ive been to but.... Yeah, there ya have it
As brace belden said, paraphrasing, If someone in the pit kicks me in the head I'm drawing, and firing.
I was at a show a longtime ago and someone was wind milling hella hard next to me, and kept coming by. I wanted to be close to the bands but I was off to the side obviously not trying to participate. I shoved him a couple times, then grabbed the guy and shoved hard but I ended up tumbling on the ground with him in my jumper dress and thigh high socks. I felt simultaneously very embarrassed and also cool for taking him down in that fit lol.
I heard him whining to someone afterwards about "if you dont like it stand in the back". Like okay, if you can't handle someone else kicking/shoving you then maybe dont dish it out? Its a huge debate on r/hardcore, it's hilarious
I'm lucky enough to be a fairly imposing figure and my favourite spot in the pit is the centre to feel like i'm mega strong for staying in the centre the whole show so I usually deputize myself to shove all hardcore dancers out of the pit.
I love when you catch the comment after. Far as I know, based on listening to minion death cult, crowd killing is a specific action to be done for a specific reason and is usually not okay there either. I'm usually shaking my head to show that I disagree when they talk about pits though
Lol I'm just imagining you standing in the middle with arms crossed, shaking your head disapprovingly then just picking up a crowd killer and tossing them like a football across the room. Gods work
That is the face I make when I see it in person lol
Ive been into extreme music and going to shows for decades at this point and theres always an element of danger and getting hurt, accidents happen. Letting out aggression is part of the fun, but like you can do that without intentionally trying to bust someone's nose
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That's generally how I consider as well. Also hated hardcore dancing. Dangerous and looks dumb
I feel like ive also noticed the horseshoe effect at shows even if its not a hardcore show, like people make the room and stand wayyyyy far from the stage like they are anticipating it. Thats really gotta suck for the bands
If you're punching and kicking and doing karate you're hardcore dancing not moshing
In my neck of the woods, a mosh pit is either a "push pit" where the objective is to run around and shove or shoulder everyone else or generally dance/headbang with the expectation of being a target for being shoved. Or a variant, usually prompted by the performers, is "circle pit" where everyone in the pit runs in one direction and continues the shoving in a whirlpool formation.
In these pits if someone is knocked to the floor it's proper etiquette to pick them up and prevent them from being trampled. I have not seen this happen ar hardcore or punk shows.
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