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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

As much as I fucking hate Musk, he does understand two things:

  1. EVs will never be the mainstream without federal and state project support
  2. Funneling money from the government to billionaires is the worst thing for an economy

What I find fucking mind-blowing is that this idiot is selling a shoddy EV and solar product at premium costs to other idiots, but very much aligned with Democrats on the two points above. Not only did he back the wrong horse, he straight up accidentally got on the wrong horse, and rode it threw towns away from where he was living very comfortably.

Now this fucking moron needs to invent new ways to make Tesla appealing to the "normies" because nobody is buying his bullshit stalling tactics or premium pricing for sub-par products.

I've got my popcorn ready, but the siphoning of votes away from Trump is just the butter on top.

[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

I dont see how you can draw that conclusion for item 2. He claims to care about the deficit, not funelling money to billionaires. Belive me, he would have you living under a bridge eating gruel before he would touch anything that affects his wealth.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Not sure I agree with point #2 - I'd be willing to bet he would love to funnel some of that sweet tax money into his own pocket, but he doesn't want it in the form of tax breaks for income earners, he wants it in the form of EV subsidies for Tesla, which Trump denied him by cutting the EV tax incentive from the spending bill. I don't think he even acknowledges that tax breaks for billionaires are bad for the economy, just that the big bullshit bill is bad for him specifically.

On everything else, though, I agree wholeheartedly. His brand is toxic now, and without being able to sell a sub-par product at dirt-cheap prices, he's going to get a heavy dose of reality when consumers reject his rolling coffins in favor of cheaper alternatives.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

If course you don't. That's why you side with Trump. The fact that "trickle down economics" had been proven time and time again means nothing to you folks.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 points 58 seconds ago

Huh? Did you reply to the wrong person? Because I don't side with Trump. Check my comment history.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)
  1. EVs will never be the mainstream without federal and state project support

in not sure about that… imo EVs would be relatively comparable if ICE vehicles and oil didn’t have massive subsidies at every stage from governments.. more if negative externalities were properly accounted for

or maybe not: in australia we have a fuel excise and EV credit and they’re still pretty expensive relative to ICE

[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I know you meant internal combustion engine, but it gave me a pause because I thought you were talking about ice agents

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 8 hours ago

i absolutely agree and considered using a different phrase but it’s been the phrase to use for fossil fuel powered cars for so long i decided they don’t get to exclusively steal it

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

EV's only become popular when cheaper. It's a fact.

Not everyone lives in areas where solar installs at ean option. The offset doesn't make sense when you go north or south of the globe where the sun don't shine.