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[–] ElfWord@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

This is such a weird take.

Oh poor baby, you need a wittle spell check to make sure you don't mess up the words in your important email?

Oh little loser, you gotta have an automatic transmission to make the car go vroom vroom?

Oh Mr. has-a-life, you have to pull out Shazam instead of knowing 8 million songs by heart?

All of us use technology to make our lives easier, to supplement skills we don't want to sink perfectionist-level time into, to enjoy "good enough" results in one area or another.

This kind of holier-than-thou hyperbolic snobbery does nothing to generate actual thoughtful reflection of where to draw the line with technology dependence and only distracts and detracts from actually good critiques of generative AI's ethics and other negative effects. I wish this sub didn't allow low-effort meme posts because it's such a brain rot circle-jerk.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The loss of skill requirements within trades and crafts is likely a major factor in the cascades of ineptitude we experience in our society. The barriers to entry also directly benefitted the quality of those spaces, and naturally flagged the incompetent (if you are incompetent and lack spell check, your mis-spellings served as a demonstration that you are not a skilled writer. Same for driving, musical recognition, engineering as well).

We've seen a clear decline in the general quality of all products, and I can't help but feel that the automation of skill is directly connected to that decline. This tweet seems to mirror that sentiment in its mockery. You don't have to think anymore about pretty much any of the process, you just get an output you can ship immediately. So it goes without saying that you can be without any skill and still have a footprint within spaces you have no merit to be in.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

You said something here that is pertinent, but also revealing. We all use technology everyday to make our lives easier, but does it? The automatic transmission cited above allowed anyone with a pulse the ability to get behind the wheel of a car rather than putting in any effort to acquire the skill to operate a motor vehicle. Great for the people who built our car-ciety, we have all suffered for it, including inaccessible essential services w/o one and getting stuck in traffic caused in the most part by people who should never be behind a wheel of a car. Do you want people writing books and creating art that have no business writing books or creating art? Cause we've got that now. Great...

[–] vorpuni@jlai.lu 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think automatic transmissions are in any way responsible for car centric urban planning, Europe has plenty of it and the transition to automatics is very slow and quite recent.

I agree far too many people are allowed to drive when they shouldn't but people dying on the road is more socially acceptable than stringent standards for being allowed to operate lethal machines at insanely high speeds (in terms of kinetic energy at least).

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Yes, the automatic transmission is not solely responsible, but it was a means to an end. How can we get more people in cars? Make it easier to drive! Brilliant. Except now we have this... It's irrational but it's my brain and I can do what I want with it!

[–] ElfWord@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

We all use technology everyday to make our lives easier, but does it?

🙄 Yes. If you disagree with something this obvious, please write me a lengthy letter explaining why and send it by horse & buggy mail carrier. I promise, I'll read and respond just as soon as I'm able.

Do you want people writing books and creating art that have no business writing books or creating art?

🤮🤮🤮 Maybe we should require an intelligence test before allowing people to post their opinions on the internet too? Or have children?

If you actually think that disallowing some people to create art because they aren't "good enough," then you aren't really defending art or artists at all.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

The point is we value people who are at the top of their specific game for a reason. When the barriers to access are removed, that's great, but it dilutes the end game product over all. Sorry not sorry. Easier lives makes dumber people I guess? Boy that's so cool! I get it, busy people can use AI to make their days less busy, but people who aren't too busy are using it and getting dumber for it. Prove me wrong. Yes technology has a myriad of benefits, but also a myriad of pitfalls too. Weird, eh? I'm not disallowing people from making art, but no one should or would buy it in a real world environment. I would ask, what value does it add to the world? Art is an expression of the artist interpreting the world. AI art is rubbish and it gives you exactly what you ask for. Cool? Maybe, but not art.

[–] ElfWord@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Again, this whole idea that you need to make an argument about the tradeoffs of technology in general in order to make an argument against AI is weak and needless. Do you have a smart phone you use the calculator on sometimes, or do you write out all your long-form division? Is everyone who owns a microwave, uses tax preparation software, or switches to an electric toothbrush just a lazy dumb-dumb in your mind?

When the barriers to access are removed, that’s great

but it dilutes the end game product over all.

AI art is rubbish and it gives you exactly what you ask for.

Cool? Maybe,

This is just talking out of both sides of your mouth trying to sound fair and balanced instead of actually making a good argument. "AI art is rubbish" -- yes!!! We don't need vacuous, hypocritical hot takes on using technology to say that.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

That's not the only thing I'm talking about, but it seemed relevant to the post? Way to fixate on one thing I am saying instead of just agreeing with me? I thought an argument was supposed to be thought out? I'm not just talking about AI though. I really hate the automatic transmission if you really want to know. Like, it doesn't rule my life or anything, I just think it has allowed stupid people to get in my way. AI art is slop and I'm not afraid of being replaced. Just so we are clear!

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

It doesn't do that at all. People creating great art isn't going away. Stop being a dumb gatekeeper too.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Who is gatekeeping?! Just cause I don't feel the same as you doesn't mean you can't do a thing? Technology is great, but it can also be stupid, and dangerous, and misused and by golly, even detrimental.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

bruh, it's literally a mockery. they are mocking the ineptitude of people who use AI.

way to overanalyze a tweet.

[–] ElfWord@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

"You're using your brain too much, just enjoy the 'hUmOr'" as a defense of this is ironically the funniest thing in this thread.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't say it was humor. I said they are mocking them.

if your AI brainrot hadn't been so severe you might have comprehended that.

Jesus dude, go touch some grass. you're getting bent out of shape over such an insignificant piece of shit like me, it's pathetic.

[–] ElfWord@lemmy.world -2 points 11 hours ago

Pedantry. "Think less, shut up, accept what the algorithm feeds you from this sub without question" was still the basic gist.

🤷‍♂️ I'm drinking tea and having a nice day. Sorry you think I'm getting bent out of shape just because I'm critiquing your poorly thought-out comments. 🙂

you’re getting bent out of shape over such an insignificant piece of shit like me, it’s pathetic.

My guy it honestly sounds like you're the one who needs to take a screen break more than I do. Be well.

and only distracts and detracts from actually good critiques

No, it doesn't. You just want to be able to pick from your buffet of cake flavors without it being morally complicated. Gen AI is demon technology made by demons, and those demons deserve mockery and ridicule. It should be impolite to be this anti-social.