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The person in the photo is weak not because he cries on TV, but because he entirely argues in bad faith, has little idea what he actually believes, and is fully engaged in a culture war, with little focus except fearmongering and resisting anything that might make the world somewhat lively in a crazed aspiration to “rebuild” western civilization.
This meme is sexist itself; I don’t care that the person in the photo is a hypocrite. It is petty to the point it essentially platforms the person depicted.
Please be part of a cultural movement. The news used to bring on people from outrageous movements to mock them and instead it simply promoted those groups to a wider audience. The news has somewhat learned and you can see how delicately the NYT tries to dismantle Yarvinism.
Please please don’t platform hateful people. I’m here to escape them.
!Reprieve@lemmy.zip is here for male-identifying persons to get away from this kind of hate and find a better place to connect with their fellows where just regular normal people can talk about shit without judgement and without the specter of dumbass made up sexist shit like Peterson spouts hanging over them.
Disappointed but not surprised to see the downvotes, apparently there are Peterson fans here.
Worse yet, there's probably people that hate Peterson but love his tactics of just being the worst person ever in the "right way", you know people that think misandry isn't real.
Misandry exists and it's a valid concern for a lot of men. To write it off and pretend it doesn't is to feed more people into Peterson's cult. That's not to say that misogyny doesn't exist either, not that it's not as much of a problem. It's not a competition on how much life sucks for a particular group of people. We're all just trying to get through life however we can and everyone needs their own space. And so far 99% of men's spaces are this sexist alpha male pigheaded bullshit. And everyone is so afraid of making another type because they'll be labeled as more of the same. This is for just normal ass people who just need someone to talk to who understands what they're going through. None of the Peterson bullshit. None of the misogyny. Just guys helping guys. And it's telling that my first post saying "Peterson sucks" is very upvoted but my post saying "Peterson sucks, here's an alternative for men that's not sucky" is not
I didn't claim misogyny didn't exist, I explicitly confirmed it does. I didn't say misandry was worse than misogyny, I said it wasn't a competition between the two. Just because YOU don't recognize it doesn't mean that OTHER people don't feel it's effects. For you to come in and claim to tell other people that their experiences are invalid because you personally don't believe in them is the height of narcissism
As a man, it's not even a comparison and it's insulting to women to even suggest it.
you dint go through the same struggles as a woman they did. and alot of it, especially social media comes from a place of misogyny(accusing women of misandry, and im a guy too. i only ever seen it use as a deflection tool from thier ownself why they cant get with women.
yes there are man-hating women out there, but im betting mysogynistic men far exceeds that.
Specifically, no one is comparing them except you. It's okay for two groups of people to have shitty experiences at once. It's not a competition or a fight, I don't understand why people keep trying to insist on making it a "one vs the other" thing.
Really? Nobody compares them? Maybe not here, but... Seriously? Is this your first day on the internet?
I can only speak for myself. If you're trying to lay the entirety of the Internet's behavior on a specific person or group of people then that's a pretty shitty personal take that you can take personal responsibility for.
You just said this though. How is this just speaking for yourself?
Would you like me to amend it to "No in this immediate conversation is comparing the two"? I figured you got that considering you said
Why are you getting so defensive about me pointing out the behavior of other people on the internet? Kind of a weird reaction.
As a third party, it's probably because you're being pedantic. No one in the conversation was originally comparing misogyny to misandry. So after the comment "it's not even comparable" it's obvious that the following comment of "no one's comparing them" means this conversation. So really harping on the idea of anybody anywhere on the internet comparing these things is irrelevant.
I was not being pedantic, I was responding to ~~your~~ their argument before ~~you~~ they straight up changed it mid conversation.
Edit: fixed.
Wasn't me.
Oh I guess that completely shuts down my argument... wait, no. Nevermind.
!Reprieve@lemmy.zip you dropped this.
Is there a difference between /c/reprieve@lemmy.zip and !reprieve@lemmy.zip?
One of them is a clickable link.
Oh, they're both clickable in my client, that's very good to know moving forward, thank you, it's much appreciated!
Anytime!
Both clickable in Connect for Android too.
The second one is linkified in my client (Voyager)
J.P. knows what he belies in! He just refuses to say openly! Like he refuses to say whether he is a christian, despite literally going on a show named Christian vs atheist as he is fully aware that they would rip several instances of assholes on his body! And I really really really don’t think that he has any plans of making anything of his viewers to achieve anything considering the ads he runs for his youtube videos
He is also weak for not staying composed while being broadcast on TV. Control of one's emotions is a skill and takes strength. I'm not saying it's wrong to be weak though, everyone has their moments.
benzos does that to you.
Thank you for bringing up that this "self reliance, tough people etc" guy is a fucking junkie
can't believe i watched his videos