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I was doing so good, 10 months of clean pure carnivore. I had amazing results (45kg lost). I didn't have any cravings.

I feel off the wagon 2 weeks ago. It started innocently enough - A friend visiting from out of town wanted to go to a coffee shop and eat. They had pastrami bagels, I got one, scrapped off the meat - didn't eat the bagel. It was good. Really good. I found myself ordering this pastrami bagel to my house. Slowly enough that I didn't realize it, my old carvings came back. I found myself thinking of a deep dish pizza, over and over and over again.

There must have been sugar in the pastrami, I think I got triggered. I got the pizza, rationalizing it - I've been so good, just one cheat will be fine, then back on track. I felt bloated, stuffed, sick even - for the rest of the day. But... the next day, now I REALLY wanted a pizza - Fuck it. Got the pizza, and coffee (oh, did I mention I quit coffee 5 months ago?), and rice krispie treats.

Fast forward a few binge days... I'm feeling both HUNGRY and bloated at the same time. I tell myself I'm in control, I just need to get it out of my system. I fast for one day. I feel back in control. So it's ok to cheat again... pizza again.

During this 2 week orgy of old habits - I ate a bunch of pizza, rice krispies, cookies (that I hated, but still finished). Eventually I stopped feeling bloated, I just felt hungry.

Serious things I noticed

  • Constant cravings for old addictions
  • Gained 2kg
  • eczema came back on my hands
  • pimple breakout
  • acid reflux while trying to sleep
  • old joint problem flared up, with constant pain
  • eye floaters came back
  • gym performance steady decreased
  • gym recovery time went from almost immediate, to 3 days
  • sauna endurance plummeted (I could only stand half the time)
  • reduced sexual function

So why, why with these bad things, the constant joint pain, the acne, the eczema, the bloating... did I keep going on? When I ate I felt like I could stop it, but every day I told myself the next day. Tomorrow never came. The urges were persistent, just there constantly, I could say no... for a few hours but eventually I pulled the trigger.

8 days ago my friend came over, she has uncontrolled t2d, we both agreed to start getting clean the next day. I tried, she tried, we both couldn't do it... but I lied to her, I said I was being clean (or rather omitting that I had cheated on our pact). and the next day, and the next day.

4 days ago - I finally was able to stay clean all day. I was extremely triggered. Like a degenerate I kept putting food into my delivery app, looking at it, looking at different options - browsing my own food hookup app. I could have a Cannoli, it's been years since I had a cannoli! How about one last rice krispie, some fudge? Looking at my youtube watch history it was dominated by food, food preparation, more food porn. I struggled through it until the pizza place was closed, and I could hold off till the next day

3 days ago - The cravings were diminished, but replaced by a persistent longing - a gossamer hand on my shoulder turning me to old thoughts. It got bad, I almost cracked. Finally I mixed 75g of protein powder as a shake and downed it... Felt bloated, felt painfully full, but the food noise died down enough I could get past that day.

2 days ago - Mostly clean all day, I had the urge but if I kept busy I could ignore it. When I slowed down or had time to myself it came back. I was clean for two days, one last taste to set me up for success... I talked with my friend, we talked about the struggle, getting someone else involved helped.

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[–] xep@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They are TOO good

I love to bake and I love baked goods. Thankfully, I'm not highly food motivated, but I cannot walk past a croissant and not want one. Even thinking about one now gives me a familiar pang, but I can recognize that for what it is now.

I've not measured my sauna endurance, and did not realize that being in good metabolic health would improve that. I'll see how long I last next time I'm in a sauna!

Thank you for sharing, I'm glad to know I'm not the only one that feels like this sometimes. I have a breath ketone meter that helps keep me on track; I'm not sure how accurate it is, but it's very consistent. If you haven't tried one maybe give it a go, mine wasn't too expensive. I used to wear a continuous glucose monitor, but that's more expensive and a lot more work.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 day ago

I have a breath ketone meter that helps keep me on track; I’m not sure how accurate it is, but it’s very consistent. If you haven’t tried one maybe give it a go

I haven't tried one yet. I have the finger stick ketone meter - ketomojo, and that works really well. The numbers help me stay on track once I'm clean, but getting clean is a mental and physical struggle regardless of the numbers. Thankfully I'm over the hump now, the food noise is gone and i don't have any cravings!