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[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

While those are two possible points of data, there are a number of other factors that contributed to each Democratic candidates' loss vs. Trump.

  • Both suffered from being establishment candidates in an antiestablishment era.
  • Both were only really willing to push to milquetoast progressive policies.
  • Both followed disappointing democratic presidents that promised a lot and delivered little, often due to their own party sabotaging attempts at major progressive reform.

I truly think that Democrat voters want real, progressive change (even if they find words like "socialism" scary) but most Democrat politicians aren't willing to anger their wealthy Third Way/Neoliberal/Abundance/whatever-the-fuck-they-want-to-call-themselves donors.

[–] ExploitedAmerican@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Here is a basic logical analysis of our “democratic” republic.

Everything, and i mean EVERYTHING regarding our sociopolitical system is up for sale and easily manipulated by money. It was this way before citizens United but then citizens united just exacerbated this and pushed this so far that a study done by Princeton concluded that the amount of influence one has on any potential political policy is directly proportional to how wealthy you are with regular working class people having a statistically irrelevant near zero level of influence on any potential policy/Legislation regardless as to how popular or unpopular it may be.

So in a system where it is obvious a small group of people with immense wealth and privilege who act as though they have divine provenance to dictate how our society is run what gives anyone the extremely naive idea that for a class of people who effectively believe themselves to be above the law they would for some reason consider the American democratic process to be one step too far for them to exert influence upon by any means necessary?

In Germany there was a supreme court case concerning election integrity within the last 15-20 years or so(i don’t exactly remember when) but the supreme court ultimately decided that electronic voting is unconstitutional because it is impossible to differentiate between fraudulent results and legitimate ones for laypeople who are not cybersecurity/ IT experts. And this is what the US needs immediately as well as a repeal of citizens United, and laws that prevent a biased Supreme Court acting in bad faith.

True leftism has been eradicated from the sociopolitical discourse. The Democratic party has shifted to the right every election since LBJ refused the party nomination and then RFK was subsequently shot in the head. To think that this has not been achieved through subversive collusion of individuals/ organizations/ entities with like minded interests and agendas requires the same level of naïveté it takes to believe our presidential elections have not been tampered with to benefit wall street Military and prison industry profiteers.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

If you want more data there is also Congress which is only 28% female, and historically there were far less. I think the sentiment I saw in a lot of republicans wasn't that they supported Trump all that much, but that they opposed Hillary and Harris.

What exactly makes you say Joe Biden was a better candidate than either as far as those bullet points?

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm sure some minority of the population is misogynistic and wouldn't vote for a woman. I just don't think it's enough misogynists to ruin their chances.

Both suffered from being establishment candidates in an anti-establishment era.

Yes, Biden definitely suffered from this.

Both were only really willing to push to milquetoast progressive policies.

In the primaries, absolutely. However, once Biden won, he took on projects from the progressive wing, likely in exchange for full throated endorsement/support. Green new deal type stuff. Not amazing, but not nothing. A lot of the more progressive goals were wrecked by Democrats' hopeless naivety, or feigned ignorance, when attempts were made to reach across the aisle and get some consensus from Republicans... who had made it crystal fucking clear that their only goal was obstruction and sabotage. Then other Democrats straight up ruined it themselves. Anyway...

Both followed disappointing democratic presidents that promised a lot and delivered little, often due to their own party sabotaging attempts at major progressive reform.

Biden's biggest advantage was that he followed Trump. I'm fucking appalled that people had already forgotten the first time. Makes me wonder if it wasn't rigged by Republicans more thoroughly than had become obvious.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

Sure, if you're trying to win as a Republican, being female is pretty hard. Luckily Democrats don't win elections by seeking far right votes.

Overall, 150 women are set to serve in the 119th Congress starting next year, down just slightly from the current record of 152 (which represents 28 percent of all members). As has long been the case though, there are sharp partisan imbalances here: 42 percent of incoming Democratic members and just 15 percent of incoming Republican members are women. And based on this year's results, that imbalance doesn't appear to be narrowing, particularly as female candidates within the Republican Party face persistent structural and cultural barriers to running and winning.

I wonder if you read this exact article and just cherry picked the number to justify your stance.