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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Tim Walz said it was his stance during the debates, live on CNN.

MB: Thank you, Norah. Earlier today, Iran launched its largest attack yet on Israel. But that attack failed thanks to joint U.S. and Israeli defensive action. President Biden has deployed more than 40,000 U.S. military personnel and assets to that region over the past year to try to prevent a regional war. Iran is weakened, but the U.S. still considers it the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world, and it has drastically reduced the time it would take to develop a nuclear weapon. It is down now to one or two weeks time. Governor Walz, if you are the final voice in the situation room, would you support or oppose a preemptive strike by Israel on Iran? You have two minutes.

TW: Well, thank you. And thank you for those joining at home tonight. Let's keep in mind where this started. October 7th, Hamas terrorists massacred over 1400 Israelis and took prisoners. Iran, or, Israel's ability to be able to defend itself is absolutely fundamental, getting its hostages back, fundamental, and ending the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. But the expansion of Israel and its proxies is an absolute, fundamental necessity for the United States to have the steady leadership there. You saw it experienced today, where, along with our Israeli partners and our coalition, able to stop the incoming attack. But what's fundamental here is that steady leadership is going to matter. It's clear. And the world saw it on that debate stage a few weeks ago. A nearly 80 year old Donald Trump talking about crowd sizes is not what we need in this moment. But it's not just that. It's those that were closest to Donald Trump that understand how dangerous he is when the world is this dangerous. His Chief of Staff, John Kelly, said that he was the most flawed humanity being he'd ever met. And both of his Secretaries of Defense and his national security advisors said he should be nowhere near the White House. Now, the person closest to them, to Donald Trump, said he's unfit for the highest office. That was Senator Vance. What we've seen out of Vice President Harris is we've seen steady leadership. We've seen a calmness that is able to be able to draw on the coalitions, to bring them together, understanding that our allies matter. When our allies see Donald Trump turn towards Vladimir Putin, turn towards North Korea, when we start to see that type of fickleness around holding the coalitions together, we will stay committed. And as the Vice President said today, is we will protect our forces and our allied forces, and there will be consequences.

Now don't get me wrong, I voted for him as Harris' VP and I would do it again, but I do not like him and I would not be happy if he runs again.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

So your quoting something that was clearly misspoken as why you dislike him so greatly. The sentence makes no sense as many pointed out on every news station at the time saying he misspoke.

If it wasn't two sentences garbled together like everyone assumed, who exactly are Israel proxies that he wants to expand? It very clearly was meant to be something along the line of Iran and it's proxies (referring to the actual subject of the conversation, Hezbollah) are expanding. Hezbollah "expanding" at the time was considered a big threat because the U.S. was dumping shit tons of cash to stop the attacks on ships instead of telling Israel we would sanction them and cut all further support unless they withdrew from Gaza and called an immediate permanent ceasefire. (Which is why Hezbollah was shooting at ships).

Biden should have made an executive order to do so and demanded the sanctions be placed. (which Congress would have said no too, but if the president bluffed, we don't know if Israel would have stopped or been certain they could wait for Congress to say no).

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Fuck off, I'm allowed to not like Tim Walz for his shit take on Israel.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 35 minutes ago) (1 children)

He thinks that Israels borders need to expand.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That's not his take though is it, that's just what you want it to be for some reason.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

So you're saying you love Tim Walz because you think he's lying to us?

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 0 points 8 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago)

No I haven't said anything about my sentiment about Waltz. He has said we can't allow what is/has happened to the people in Gaza to happen, and supported immediate ceasefire though. Which go completely against why you say you dislike him.

..also "lying to us" really? The sentence made no sense. Even Fox pointed out he misspoke and he said Israel instead of Iran. And made fun of him for it. There was more wrong about the sentence than just that.. it's 2 sentences jammed together incorrectly like he looked down and read the next like or something.