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multi-party bourgeois democracy has proven to be too much of a hassle in both instances. there is heavy foreign interference, primarily through fostering the opposition and by direct coup attempts. if you attempt to work within the capitalist system as a socialist you'll associate every misfortune caused by the economic structure of society with socialism. eventually as us sanctions continue to strangle your economy and destroy your nation you'll be voted out and it'll all have been for nothing. i genuinely do not see how allowing the current state of things continue is in anyway beneficial to their programme. seizing power would prevent any overturning of the present reforms and allow for the cementing of revolutionary control. the west will never consider you legitimate as long as you are in opposition to their interests, they'll consider you a dictator no matter what you do.

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[โ€“] ColombianLenin@hexbear.net 18 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They were elected through bourgeois elections, meaning several of the bourgeois checks and balances are still in place.

Until the countries have more popular struggle, the system will remain as is, probably.

[โ€“] jack@hexbear.net 4 points 5 hours ago

What do you think of the idea that Petro wants to push for some kind of popular uprising to consolidate power against the bourgeois systems? I feel like his anti-institutional calls to action lately are going in that direction, but also I might just be seeing what I want to see.