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I would have a very difficult time voting for someone who received funding from musk.
You got a lot of angsty democrats responding here with basically "c'mon bro, please, bro, you don't understand, if we don't take the money to do the Hitler, then the Republicans will do it completely for free, please, bro, be reasonable!"
Fuck that. I'm normally a pretty practical person, but if the dude who's directly financing neo-nazism parties around the world like a one man CIA starts dumping cash into the democrats, it's because he means to turn them into the neo neo Nazis, and they will not be getting my vote. Will the country burn? Yeah, but it's going to do that because the democrats think fundraising is more important than having literally any principles or strong policy positions at all, regardless of whether I vote for them or not.
Exactly. American liberals have lost their fucking minds already sticking up for this guy after what he’s been doing.
I would rather vote for someone who got spite funding by a nazi than to vote for an anti-America, nazi/terrorist. And that's anyone supporting the current regime.
I would too, but I'd rather vote for people willing to tell them both to go fuck themselves
Vote for that person in the primary and hope he musk money person loses there.
But if they don't, little choice after that.
Any Dem funded by a Nazi won't get my vote for sure.
And this is exactly why Trump won. Twice.
Do you have no principles? Like look what Musk has done. And you want democratic candidates in debt and aligned with him? He’s just going to continue what he started, he’s not going to do an about face.
We should be incriminating millionaires putting money into campaigns, not accepting them
Liberals will never admit that their lack of principals is a large part of why the USA is what it is right now.
Written as someone with truly no idea what the fuck they're talking about
Taking Musk’s money and influence to make the world a better place isn’t a problem.
Letting him pick a direction for the party or make policies would be my red line.
People don’t give money without expecting something in return. And these spineless democrats will 100% let him run circles around them if he promised to keep them in office.
Those who side with nazis are no better than the nazis themselves.
There’s so much wrong with your little thought terminating sentence there.
Taking Musk’s money to get power isn’t siding with Nazis.
The level of naivety you have to have to think people give campaign donations while expecting absolutely nothing in return is just crazy man. I don’t even know where this logic line could even be coming from.
Start a party where you only accept donations from ideologically pure sources and see how far it gets you.
Don't let perfect be the enemy of good enough.
The democrats are absolutely not good enough. Elon Musk is absolutely NOT GOOD ENOUGH. What an insane thing to say about a Nazi. THIS is why your country is where it is right now, not because of the people who refuse to side with nazis. It’s because of the enablers like you.
It's because of your purity tests that we got Trump in the first place.
Voting for the lesser of two evils eventually gets you the greater evil due to apathy. Your vote feels lesser when your options are always shit vs shittier. We literally saw that happen yet democrats learned nothing. Especially when they constantly go after the shittier voting demographic
Listen I'm not saying it shouldn't be better. But I'd rather vote for a Musk funded Democrat than a Trumper. I would love to live in a reality where Citizens United never happened and money is banned from politics, but the way it stands I would vote for a literal steaming pile of horse shit if it was running against Trump and I'm not sorry about that.
No, you guys got Trump by American liberals not doing anything of value to steer their country away from fascism for decades and then blaming literally everybody but themselves. Your do nothingness and trying to pretend it’s activism is just so tiring. Every time your democrats were in power you increased defence spending, increased US caused civilian deaths around the world, increased the US’s stranglehold on world politics, and then you try to shame people in countries that are affected by this for not liking you. It’s not a purity test from where the rest of the world stands, it’s just the fucking reality.
Your not even American?
Kindly shove your election opinions up your butt.
Nah, when your country stops threatening to invade my country maybe that dumbass American bullshit of “YOURE NOT AMERICAN YOUR OPINION ON OUR ELECTIONS DOESNT MATTER” will fly, but until your countries politics stop strongly negatively effecting the rest of the world at such significant levels as they are currently then you can shut the fuck up with that rhetoric son, the rest of the world ain’t buying it.
Fuck off
Back at ya bud.
Don't accept money from Nazis.
My principles don't matter. Your principles don't matter. The principles of every single voter doesn't matter. What does matter is the principles of the President of the United States of America.
The functioning of the US government isn't just for you. Or your principles. Your principles are never on the ballot. Don't be selfish.
This is brain dead. We live in a representative democracy. They’re supposed to be reflections of us. Public servants that carry out our will and nothing more.
You insult because your brain is dead. Take a moment. Read my comment again.
You sound like you want a dictator that rules as THEY see fit. Not for us.
If you think the US is any kind of meaningful definition of representative democracy then you don’t know what you’re talking about and shouldn’t be taken seriously when talking about these things.
Then enlighten me, what is it? We elect people to represent us, to vote in our favor. Not to rule over us with autonomy. Like I said, they are public servants, nothing more than DMV workers but with more responsibility.
It’s a fascist oligarchy masquerading as a democracy.
I mean currently, yes, that’s hard to argue with, but it wasn’t founded or made to be that way.
I guess I was focused on what America is supposed to be as a concept
Yeah, I get that. But what it’s supposed to be and what it is in reality are massively different.
Welp, that commits my mental map of the next 8 years, here comes a Musk-funded Democrat to divide all of us again for another Conservanazi win. Yippee.
Which is why I favor succession through usurpation.
so fucking do it, you won't
I have insufficient resources.
insufficient to find some group to join?
The left doesn't have armed militias.
...wait, why don't we? The skinhead neo-nazis do.
Mostly it's because our intelligence agencies have been running aggressive counter-intelligence operations against the domestic left for seventy or eighty years. If they can't harass them into quitting or discredit them (see COINTELPRO), then they get them assassinated (MLK Jr). The CIA specialized in launching reactionary coups across the global south to destroy democratically elected and peaceful left wing governments (see: The Jakarta Method) and there's no evidence that they ever really stopped. To be honest, much of 2016 and on has reminded me a lot of the Jakarta Method; I wouldn't be surprised if the CIA has turned inward on the US.
Any successful usurpation plan requires sufficient quantities of Cadmium, Astatine-210, Tetraphosphorus, Flourine Gas, and Sulfur. I have none of those, and I doubt any will ever come into my possession.
Who was it? Ro Khanna I think is already out there on socmed kissing his ass.
Why do they have to suck so goddamn much?
I’m not surprised, just irritated. That’s way too fast.