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[–] lemmyng@lemmy.ca 172 points 2 days ago (5 children)

"Increase social service programs so that we address the reason why they're homeless and doing drugs in the first place."

"No, that's socialism and Fox News tells me I should be scared of that word!"

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 96 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't want to pay for other peoples' healthcare so I'd rather pay a lot more for an oppressive police force that also takes away my civil rights.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 78 points 2 days ago (1 children)

While still paying for other people's healthcare because that's how insurance works.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not to mention the societal costs that inevitably come from people being sick

[–] grue@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The real "fiscal conservatives" are the "bleeding-heart liberals."

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 27 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Turns out, productivity soars when you have a well rested, well compensated, well treated, healthy, and housed people who don't have constant stessors of literally every aspect of their lives nearly crumbling beneath them...

[–] Tower@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But then how are you supposed to subjugate them???

[–] rah@feddit.uk 7 points 2 days ago

Yeah but then how would the rich and powerful feel good about themselves?

Okay but if there's infrastructure then the idea of structural forces wont seem so alien to people, and they will be harder to oppress.

So maybe the crazy idea you just pulled out of your ass isnt quite so clever in the real world, hm?

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No, its the anarchists; libs still means test everything.

Edit: we're also for slashing government spending!

Hell yeah! high five

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago

That's why the bathrooms will show ads 24/7 and the drug safe zones will feature loot drop microtransactions. All participating companies will receive carbon credits. Time to capitalize socialism.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Increase social service programs so that we address the reason why they're homeless and doing drugs in the first place."

If conservatives were really about ending homelessness and getting them paying taxes instead of 'just' consuming benefits, then they'd be in on this plan of phased rehab and rehousing to accomplish that. It's an investment they don't seem to see and I worry they look down on addict as trash not victims, and merely want the homeless* to silently vanish.

*I know it's not the latest popular word that privileged people use to feel better. Homeless apparently aren't offended as long as people are talking about the situation and investing time in their future, because stick and stones.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We do that in Finland and there's still homeless people and drug users in the public bathrooms. It sucks, the drug users particularly can be really threatening towards women especially who want to use those bathrooms they've taken over.

Drug use rooms would be a good idea.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Drug use rooms are great, for a lot of things, including helping people get sober. It's a place you can funnel addicts to and make sure they know the resources that are available and that there are people who want them to live their best life.

Like, it's not an endorsement anymore than when a parent tells a teenager that if they need a ride home at any time of night when they're too drunk to drive they won't get in trouble. And it confuses me why so few people see it that way.

[–] rah@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

it confuses me why so few people see it that way

Willful ignorance fuelled by religious indoctrination that getting out of your head is immoral.

[–] rah@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Increase social service programs so that we address the reason why they're homeless and doing drugs in the first place."

Doing drugs doesn't imply a problem. UNODC estimates that only 10-15% of drug use is problematic. It's not reasonable to assume that drug use is an escape from problems, any more than drinking alcohol.

[–] fluffy@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Alcohol is just another (imho very problematic) drug that simply happens to be legal in lots of countries ….

[–] rah@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

Indeed, alcohol can be a problematic drug and is much more dangerous than most illicit drugs but do you assume that everyone who has a drink is doing so because they have a drinking problem?