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[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 44 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

It helps in 30 years. Which is much better than never.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

But literally any other form of energy generation can be deployed quicker and is cheaper and most are also less centralized.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 44 minutes ago

And you think that just because they have something to help in 30 years they'll sit there with a thumb up their ass and wait before doing anything else?

Never get involved in politics or management of any sort, thank you.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It's still to be determined if at a 90% renewable grid whether adding nuclear or wind/solar will be cheaper. You'll need a whole lot more energy storage the closer you get to 100% intermittent renewable, so having some reliable base load with nuclear is likely cheaper.

[–] Ton@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Building way more renewable generation than needed at peak, plus elasticity brought by batteries (hello V2G cars) plus HVDC lines to transport power between regions will be faster and cheaper than deploying the most expensive form of power generation.

Yet, it's the power companies that don't want this. As it's threatening their business model of central generation and metering every kWh going to the consumer.

This is the reason why these discussions keep popping up. Right wing parties are fully aligned with the centralised thinking of traditional power companies.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

I'll need substantiation on the cheaper. Batteries are expensive! And transmission loses get excessive after very long to distances.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 4 hours ago

We can do both.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well, then why not put all that money into technology that helps people in a couple of months already?

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Like what?

They are already doing renewables, which don't have steady output. This is to provide a steady baseline.

[–] monogram 2 points 6 hours ago

Creating a new legal framework with examples to copy and compare is a lot easier than improving an existing one.