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[–] CowsLookLikeMaps@sh.itjust.works 82 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

To be fair, we basically just elected a Biden-style neoliberal who is slightly to the right of Trudeau. As affordability continues to gradually decline, our Trump (Poilievre) or a similar guy will be even more empowered. We're basically a few years behind the USA right now and your right are actively trying to speed it up.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago

We also destroyed the other smaller parties. I feel like we're basically a two party system at this point.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The liberal party should pass the electoral reform they promised so more political parties can compete on who can beat conservatives the best.

Stopping the conservatives is the priority... right? The liberal party honors their promises... right?

Electoral Reform Videos

First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

Videos on alternative electoral systems

STAR voting

Alternative vote

Ranked Choice voting

Range Voting

Single Transferable Vote

Mixed Member Proportional representation

[–] Toblerone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago

I really like what Australia does for voting, their system is fascinating and makes me wonder how it would do in Canada

[–] fosho@lemmy.ca 4 points 22 hours ago

did you forget the voting reform referendum the liberals already gave us?

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

That’s why the 2-party system is so flawed. I used to be so gullible to think that if everyone keeps voting for the left party then the parties overall would sway more left in their future policies, but that is impossible in the capitalistic hellhole we live in.

[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Good thing there were 5 parties in this election. We got another minority prime minister, which will need to work on the left of what they would.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m still a bit baffled it doesn’t work.

Like, the Left not doing enough SHOULD lead the right to decide “Dang, we need a message that appeals. Let’s blame the rich, and champion power over corporations!” But…instead they blame nonsensical things, promise nothing, and appeal to hatred, and get more than one vote.

That should just…never happen. That faction should be gonezo, making plenty of room for an independent party.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 1 points 14 hours ago

The right just blaims the problems created by the rich on minorities like migrants, trans and homosexuals. That makes them look like they actually care about the people being hurt by the system, however also allows them to gain support from the rich. The rich do onw a lot of the media, which has massive influence on the vote.

The left party also knows this, so they usually do some minor things, which do not change the system too much in the hopes on not being hurt by the rich.

Oh and both parties are deeply corrupt.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

It's because of this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schismogenesis

It's like being on a see saw, trying to get higher, with both sides doing extreme polar opposite actions eventually. Momentum is part of it. The idea is complex and the wiki doesn't do it justice, but it's fine.

The effect causes two well-meaning individuals having a conversation to ramp up different styles, resulting in a disagreement that does not stem from actual difference of opinion.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago

This video explains it quite well:

Minority Rule: First Past the Post Voting by CP Grey.

The system isn’t designed to be a two-party system, but no matter how many parties there actually are are (in the US, there are actually more than a dozen active parties), FPTP voting inevitably results in only 2 being viable.

This will not change unless a different voting method is implemented.

[–] Guidy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m on record as saying even if the US had elected Harris, we’d be right back on the precipice four years after. Maybe Trump, maybe someone else, but it would still be awful.

As badly as the world needs Luigi right now, he’s not the long term solution.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

The world doesn't need one Luigi, it needs many Luigis. And a complete societal overturn.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Bold of you to assume OP doesn't live in Turkey or Israel.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

We're basically a few years behind the USA right now

People said that when Trump was elected the first time.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago)

Isn't he a banker too? I mean, he IS a normal leader now that I think of it.