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Ultra-processed food increases risk of early death, international study finds
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this post was submitted on 28 Apr 2025
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The fuck does "ultra processed food" mean? Isnt upf defined by it harming you? Its like saying weapons harm you when weapon is the name for something that is used to harm others.
Not even. The NOVA system has been tested and doesn't function as a system of classification. Experts cannot consistently classify things into UPF/not UPF. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41430-022-01099-1
So it's more like "there's this food and it's bad for you but idk what it is :/"
The infuriating thing is that I believe that nutrition is more than just a linear addition of all the constituent ingredients (kinda the default view of nutrition science up through the 90's), but addressing the shortcomings of that overly simple model shouldn't mean making an even more simple model.
NOVA classification is the wrong answer to a legitimate problem.
A processed food would be like roasted nuts, a loaf of real bread, cheese, etc. an ultra processed food is anything that's been broken down into individual constituents like corn syrup, maltodextrin, sugar, white flour, etc then amalgamated back together again. But I certainly see what you mean.
"Real bread" meets that definition of ultra-processed. It's a bunch of individual constituents (flour, water, yeast, etc.) that are mixed together.
Yes, also the glycemic index and nutrient availability changes, so it is processed from wheat seed.
When we eat raw wheat seed, we can't absorb any of the nutrients. Artificial grinding into powder and applying artificial heat and adding water break/weaken the cell walls, making the sugars and nutrients more available, it also raising glycemic index. So there is difference between how much the body can absorb from the unprocessed seed and processed version.
The difference between doritos and bread is merely the cooking temperature and the flavoring content... One is supposed to be cheesy and salty the other sweet and greasy/moist.
Where do you live that bread is sweet and greasy?
Doughnuts are sweet and greasy. They are literally cooked in boiling oil.
Okay, but if I told the bf to get bread on the way home, and he got donuts instead, we're breaking up
Yikes. I was confused about the greasy part as well but I didn't know I was supposed to break up with my partner for it. What if they bring begals because they thought the bread was for breakfast sandwiches? I am curious just how over tolerant I have been, lol
I mean, I'd be pretty mad if I asked for bread and he brought home a beagle too. I'm not using a dog for sandwiches.
Haha, I'm a doof for not realizing I spelled that wrong, though I must say a dog, or hot dog rather, is a sandwich. Although your original point was for the bread. So yeah I don't think I'd care for using a sliced hot dog as the outside of a Sandwich. I suppose if cutting bread out of your diet slicing a polish sausage down the middle and putting sourcrout and such might be decent, albeit very messy.
Fine. I'll call the bf department of purchases and let them know this is just a stretched truth and not a true truth.
breaking bread/donuts is good, sharing is caring.
Yep, a homemade loaf of bread is totally comparable to Doritos.
Thanks man I love the sincerity.
It should be more appropriately labeled Junk Food. Everyone's trying to make it sound official and it just ends up more vague.
If we were eating Seafood, Chicken, Beef, Vegatables, Salads and Whole Grains, we'd live longer.
In the end, we need to stay away from non-naturally occurring carbs and refrain from mixing naturally occurring carbs with tons of fat/salt to make them more palatable.
Muffins, Doughnuts, French Toast, Submarine Sandwiches, Pizza, Pasta, all have to be super portion controlled, we we just don't seem to have that kind of willpower.
Ultra pasteurized milk that prevents bacteria growth is UPF.
Yeah, I dunno. I wish they would just say sugar or something.
Generally, something you can't make at home.