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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And yet when the legislature arrives to give us free Healthcare the Democrats don’t pass it despite having a majority.

Obamacare saved my life and was the product of immense effort at a time when the Dems were more conservative than they are today. Blue Dogs were wiped out in 2010 and 2012 because of that (correct) rage against them.

You can say what the Dems managed to do was not enough - and it's not. Millions of people are not as lucky as me (though I suppose poverty is a strange kind of luck - poverty in a blue state, perhaps, more appropriately) and still suffer immensely under our utterly fucked healthcare system. But it's not the same result as doing nothing - or worse, handing control over to the GOP. Millions like me owe a greatly improved quality of life, or our very lives, to the reforms passed.

If you have a plan to destroy the Dems and replace them all with left-wing progressives, and put demo charges on the base of our utterly fucked rat's nest of a government structure, I'm not here to tell you not to. But I am here to tell you that both sides are not the same for millions of disadvantaged demographics, even if the Dems are not enough for those selfsame demographics.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's really the one big thing I can think of that they did get through.

It got like 80mil people health insurance which was great.

It was still a huge compromise from the free universal healthcare that was the original goal.

It's worth noting that Obama did this by going around party leadership. Once he was in power he did not obey the DNC like other candidates have.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s worth noting that Obama did this by going around party leadership. Once he was in power he did not obey the DNC like other candidates have.

I mean, the president is party leadership. And Biden, an ardent party loyalist, is the only Dem president in the past 50 years which has been in lockstep with the wider party.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

When i say "the party" i mean the privately ran organization who is legally allowed to choose whoever their canidate is, and doesn't have to legally hold a fair primary election or any election at all.

Sure the president gets a temporary seat at the table, but the other DNC leaders do not want them to be in control.

The fact that Obama tried to push free healthcare made the DNC leadership furious, because that isn't what he told them before the primaries. But because they were stuck with him they instead had other loyalist dems try to help Republicans block his policies and then enjoyed the popularity Obama was bringing to the party.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Sure there was a silver lining of sorts, but the ACA transferred more power and wealth to medical insurance companies than there was before, hastening our approach to where we are now. I'm sorry if I don't give much credit to the medicine we were given to dull the pain, because it didnt fix the problem. In fact, since so many think it did help so much, we have ignored the problem so we could argue about whether the medicine is nice or bad or rude or evil or etc.