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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 265 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Media keeps saying "criminal." Exercising Constitutional rights does now make anyone criminal, natural born citizen or not. I gave up on mediaite being unbiased long ago, but we need to call out language of complicity.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 154 points 1 week ago (3 children)

People forget that all the people the Nazi's put in camps were also criminals. According to Nazi propaganda, they were responsible for the deaths of millions of Germans in WW1, for impoverishing hardworking Germans in the Great Depression and for terrorism in resistance to the Nazi regime.

No regime ever has admitted to locking up an innocent person. No dictator has ever said "Yeah, I put innocent people in jail".

This is why we have separation of powers. The executive branch has zero authority to call anyone a criminal. Only the independent court system has that authority.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 62 points 1 week ago

This is why we have separation of powers

Had

[–] frezik@midwest.social 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oddly enough, Trump's DOJ did straight up admit they sent an innocent guy in to El Salvador, and said they can't get him back.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, no... they didn't say they couldn't get him back. They said they don't have to, even though the supreme court upheld the district court order to facilitate his return. In a rare unanimous decision I might add. They're not even trying to pretend they care what the courts say at this point.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-defy-supreme-court_n_67fd3ad6e4b0c8069e85c34e

[–] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

What the courts say only matters if it’s enforced. We need daily fines, removal from power, or even imprisonment as a punishment for this.

Remember, these are republicans, which are mostly (self proclaimed) “Christians.” These “Christians” need religion to tell them they will be punished for sinning because simply helping your fellow man is not a good enough “reward” for them. Everything is transactional.

[–] valtia@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They also didn't say he was innocent, the opposite actually. The official narrative is that he's super guilty of a million crimes, he was just "administratively" deported incorrectly, however the deportation is still serendipitous and deserved.

Obviously, he's innocent. That's clear for anyone except the most die-hard MAGA cultist. So, like, the average FOX viewer

[–] te_abstract_art@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Surely if presidents are able to appoint supreme court justices, there has never been separation of powers? And is that not a big part of why we're in this mess now?

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You also need the Senate, not just the president.

But Republican senators have abdicated their duties and voters have not replaced them.

That's why we have this mess.

[–] te_abstract_art@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Makes sense, thanks for clarifying!

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Paragraph 175 of the German code made homosexuality illegal. It had already been illegal under Weimer and the Reich before, with varying degrees of enforcement. The Nazis strengthened it, started going after even non penetrative sex.

Pink triangle prisoners were among the lowest of the low, similar to Jews. The goal was to work them to death, in the brick works. Theres a lot of horrific fucked up sexual sadism when you read these accounts. (Having sex with a man is only gay if you love him, I guess)

Then, when the camps were liberated:

The American policy toward gay inmates in the US-controlled zone of occupation was based on the Handbook for Military Government in Germany Prior to Defeat or Surrender, which was compiled by the Combined Chiefs of Staff of the US Military in 1944. Part of the Handbook was dedicated specifically to directing American troops how to classify and handle the large number of concentration camp survivors. The policy for those interned based on criminal actions stated, "Ordinary criminals with a prison sentence still to serve will be transferred to civil prisons." Since many pink triangle prisoners had been convicted of violating Paragraph 175, a law of the German Criminal Code that predated the Nazi regime, the Americans also classified them as criminals. Therefore, those who had not finished serving their sentence were often transferred to prisons.

Homosexuality remained illegal in West Germany until the 70s. This also meant that there weren’t even accounts of the things that happened in those camps, because the social stigma didn’t go away…