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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 174 points 1 week ago (41 children)

IANAL but in my reading of the text of the bill the only way for a married woman that took her partner's last name (that wasn't in the military with her married name) to be able to vote if this becomes law is for them to spend at least $30 to get a USA Passport card. This would tick all the boxes the bill requires for these women:

  • Government ID
  • Shows citizenship status (by nature of it being a Passport)
  • Shows place of birth
  • Shows the married last name

...or as I'm calling it:

This is violation of the 24th Amendment banning poll Taxes.

In this case, its a required fee married women must pay to be able to use their Constitutional guaranteed right to vote granted by the 19th Amendment. How is this not a poll tax by another name on married women?

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 37 points 1 week ago

Worse getting the card is a major pita with the documentation and photo and having to mail it for first time.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At this point the constitution is more of a guideline.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

To the GOP it's just rough paper to wipe their asses.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It always seems to me that this wouldn't be such a big problem if the US had a working bureaucracy. I know $30 can be a significant sum (plus the pictures and other expenses) but it would be less of a hurdle if

  • relevant offices were within reasonable distance
  • they were sufficiently manned
  • all or part of the process could be done online
  • the government actually strives to make these processes as user-friendly as possible

This is something Americans rarely talk about because it's just assumed that everybody knows? Maybe somebody could explain to a EU dweller.

edit: maybe I didn't phrase this properly. I'm fully aware that preventing people from voting has a long "tradition" in the US; my question was more general I guess, and meant as an "in addition to the points already mentioned".

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Those in power absolutely know these things but making things more difficult is the actual point. Voter fraud is extremely rare. The justification is all bull shit.

It's ultimately about preventing people who might vote Democrat from voting. If it affects a ton of Republican voters that's fine so long as it hits disproportionately more Democrats.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It always seems to me that this wouldn’t be such a big problem if the US had a working bureaucracy.

As a European I have no expectation you'd had this nugget of US history, but I can fill in the gap. After slavery was outlawed in the entire USA in the 1850s (post civil war) racist bigots enacted laws preventing black Americans from using their newly gained Constitutional rights. There were lots of examples of this. In many of the southern state local leaders instituted poll taxes, which was a required fee that someone would have to pay before being able to vote, but these same laws gave exemptions to anyone whose grandfather had voted in a prior election. Because whites had a long history of voting they were exempt from these taxes. Because newly freed slaves whose grandfathers had not been allowed to vote hadn't, the poll tax applied only to blacks. This disenfranchisement was deliberate on the part of white leaders with the intent to suppress black voting.

This is obviously fairly fucked up way to run a country, so the people of the USA passed an amendment to the US Constitution banning poll taxes on everyone. This is the 24th Amendment (passed in 1964). Better late than never.

So this new requirement on married women to pay at least $30 to get a passport card is a de facto poll tax which is outlawed by our Constitution (24th Amendment) also because it violates the 19th Amendment (the one that gave women the right to vote) as this law specifically targets married women (and not married men).

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You're absolutely correct, but Donald Trump dgaf about the constitution, at most he sees it as an inconvenience, something that other people have to do or something to wave like a flag, not something for him personally to actually obey. And the scotus has no intention whatsoever of holding him to it.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

I knew that, but how does it answer my question?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Consider this too. A woman has all of her ducks in a row with her married last name, and then divorces her POS republican husband. Now she needs to re-establish her identity all over again.

For the ladies out there (or anyone getting married) keep your last name. My partner kept theirs, and it tickles them pink when the systemic chauvinism gets reversed and I get called by their last name.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

My partner kept theirs, and it tickles them pink when the systemic chauvinism gets reversed and I get called by their last name.

Same here. :)

[–] Zanathos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But doesn't this mean you now have to get a passport card if you took their last name?

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

They didn't. People who know the wife assume her name will be the same and mistakenly call them the same.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

They could waive the fee as part of it?

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

They could do that but besides still being shitty, it may not satisfy the 19th Amendment. The text of the Amendment read:

  • The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

source

Making married women jump through the arduous hoops of obtaining a passport card (and indirect costs associated with it such as postage and photography costs) could still be possibly considered "abridged" in violation of this Constitutional Amendment. This is especially true when this new bill effectively singles out married women. Married men don't have to do any of this so it could also still be a violation on the "on account of sex" portion of the Amendment.

[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

How about making Bubba from bumble-fuck Arkansas have to drive to some major city to register for his right to vote?

See how that can be seen as an undue burden on voting?

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