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Resist: It's Time

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We are still in this together, but "this" is going to be real different in the very near future. This demands a different kind of "we."

The French Resistance during Nazi occupation played important roles delivering downed Allied airmen back to safety, supplying military intelligence, and acts of sabotage.

The Underground Railroad is estimated to have brought 100,000 freedom seekers to safety between 1810 and 1850.

It's time.

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The Comfort of False Equivalence
There’s a seductive kind of cowardice masquerading as wisdom in modern discourse: the insistence that all extremes are created equal. It’s what allows the centrist to shrug and say, “Well, both sides are dangerous,” as though morality and method exist on a balanced scale, and history is simply a record of shared mistakes. For MAGA, this rhetorical laziness isn’t just useful. It’s strategic.

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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The left is a loosely knit confederation of groups who often dislike one another but dislike the right even more.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

just like a famiy

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I'm not sure this is true. There are some leftists who hate Democrats far more than Republicans, especially here on Lemmy.

Some are actually supportive of the Trump regime because they believe it will bring about a collapse that will lead to a communist utopia (lol).

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

United States Democrats ARE part of the right, they just advertise as otherwise.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

That's the type of ignorant nonsense that got us here. Cut it out with that both sides bullshit.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not an American. The rest of the world sees American national politics as the good cop/bad cop farce it is. Both sides ARE bad, just one is worse than the other.

The sentiment that holding the less bad side accountable for still being bad is somehow counterproductive is part of what got you all in this mess. Expect more from your politicians.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So you literally are both sidesing right now. Lmao. Focus on your own rightward shifting politics instead of pretending to be an expert on what is happening in a country you know nothing about.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I lived in your country for 15 years. All your commentary has shown me is I know more about your country's workings than you do.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sounds like you know jack shit about my country. Lmao.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hoo boy, you sure showed me! Damn, I'm never coming back from that one, a zinger clearly birthed by an American education. You're right - your thoughtless regurgitation of American propaganda is absolutely superior.

Thank you for reminding me why I left that cesspit.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago

Good riddance iyam.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No one said anything about both sides. But if you sit here thinking that Arch capitalists like Liberals are on the left side you're just dreaming.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's more about being left than economic left honey.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really don't think there is. Especially when you remember that a liberal will literally sacrifice every other ideal because of economics. It's been that way the entirety of our country's history. Great liberal thinkers like Madison and Jefferson, speak of freedom and equality, how long did that last though? Did it last through the question of their economic well-being being threatened? Did they free the slaves? No. Ever it was for liberals, and ever it will be.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So you're a class reductionist. Fuck the minorities and people who are suffering right now because they'll all be fine when the"revolution" comes? Because that has always worked out in the past. Lmao you guys are so up your ass.

[–] Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think they're trying to both sides it. Democrats are center right on their best days, that's just a fact.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Wrong and misinformation spread by Putin to try to disseminate hate towards democrats. First paragraph from Wikipedia:

"The platform of the Democratic Party of the United States is generally based on modern liberalism, contrasting with the conservatism of the Republican Party. The party generally sits on the center-left of the American political spectrum. Currently, the party has large centrist[1][2][3][4] and progressive[5][6] wings, as well as smaller fiscal conservative[7] and democratic socialist elements.[8]"

And you can claim that compared to -insert country here- that Democrats are right wing but it doesn't matter. When Republicans complain about the left they are complaining about Democrats and everyone to the left of them. In American politics, Democrats are left-wing. And those other countries are shifting rightwards as well. Stop falling for psyops bullshit from Russia and tankies.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The party generally sits on the center-left of the American political spectrum.

Emphasis mine.

This is where having broader knowledge is useful in making comparisons. The American Overton Window has been ratcheted so far to the right that a center-right party appears center left as actual progressive/leftist politics are considered ridiculous by the population. Your Bernie Sanders is barely left but he's referred to by many as an extremist.

Consider what center-left looks like in Iran. It's certainly much farther right than the equivalent in the US.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Did you read the rest of my comment? What happens in other countries doesn't relate to American politics and even in these "left" countries you speak of they are also having their Overton windows shift right. Europe isn't some leftist utopia.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They don’t do much. Biden started to roll back reaganomics but that’s being gutted now.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago

That's because tankie idiots decided they'd rather have Trump than anything even close to progressive politics.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As an European, the democrats sit firmly in the center-right sphere, somewhat more socially left, but more right in certain areas

Like, our center-right parties straight up are more progressive in some areas than the democrats are

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

See my other post. What happens in Europe doesn't matter compared to American politics. And most European countries are experiencing right wing shifts also.

Our two party system (which sucks and needs to go) makes the comparisons impossible as well. You guys are literally playing around with naziism again. And many of your countries are rolling back gay rights and abortion rights. Don't pretend like Europe is some left wing utopia. Lmao.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most of that influence comes from America though?

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You can try to shift the blame to others all you want. The truth is you only have yourself to blame though.

Our politics are influenced by Russia, China, Australian and South African billionaires, but it is our people who voted according to that influence.

Even if you blame Americans for influencing, your people are still voting for it.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How's that inconsistent with what he said? They said they hate the right even more.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because Democrats aren't on the right dumbass.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

They literally aren't but continue being a mouthpiece for Putin Russian shill.