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[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 38 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (3 children)

It's in our genetics to engage in a perpetual exponential quarterly growth and make our decisions based on the benefit it brings to our investors. Any caveman could tell you that smh...

E: my god it's a hyperbolically absurd take in memes and even with the caveman comment I still need to /s apparently...

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 9 hours ago

No, cavemen were very egalitarian. This is because back then, you couldn't hoard much of anything - food spoils quickly, sex requires your partner to like you, and personal possessions were things like tools or the odd bit of clothing. It was when wealth could be preserved, such as livestock, stored grain, jewelry, and eventually coinage, that wealth became an hereditary thing.

This is why a future economic system has to be designed to prevent the excessive hoarding of wealth. Not too little, nor too much. Humans weren't evolved to be free of consequence, especially from each other.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

If you ran humanity in thousands of simulations how often would we end up in the same capitalistic situation?

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

the majority would be relatively the same with minor variances on cultural customs and traditions, society conforms to law whether if you realize it or not, this is a chief principle of materialist philosophy, understanding that the things conform to definite laws and that we must and can discover them. Historical materialism is the materialist conception of history with the conclusion that the development of production is the chief driving force in the development of society, quantitative improvements in production lead to qualitative changes in how society is organized.

With this in mind, Communism is a stage of development where developments in production led to a society of abundance that ended the exploitation of man by man. Communist states, like China, are not in that stage but are organized to pursue that goal, this is why China has a massive focus point on the development of productive industries.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 hours ago

Very frequently, but it is exactly just as likely it would have moved on to Socialism and eventually Communism, or retained feudalism, it all depends on when in development.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

this rather shows the untestability of the hypothesis. this is no test at all.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Far less often than we end up with communalist hunter gatherers and early agrarian communes and evidently for a much shorter time. Does that mean feudalism can never work? Capitalism is never at any point of productive development possible?

If you've never studied an economics text (a real, materialist one, not fucking graphs with conveniently simple and clean cut rules that never seem to apply and zero statistics) then try not to speak so authoritatively on economics.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

So many it would be hard to count, at least 4 or 5. But numbers don't really go much higher than that. Any caveman could tell you that.

[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world -3 points 12 hours ago

No, but greed and envy is. That's why humans have written so much in the last thousand years about greed and envy.