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It is important to remember that turning down a pull request does not make a person (or project) anti-LGBT.
Sadly, I have seen bullying and brigading from people who claim to be supporting inclusiveness, more than a few times. That behavior alone would be enough to sour me on them personally, and on any change they had submitted.
And, of course, there are other perfectly valid reasons to decline a PR as well.
Asking for changes we would like to see is fine. Demanding them is not. Resorting to character assassination when we don't get what we want is absolutely not.
turning it down doesn't but raging over the idea and attacking the user does
Hey, quick question, what do you think of the lead developer of LadyBird calling Brendan Eich, known homophobe and CEO of Brave, "Senpai."
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It's completely unrelated, right? He just doesn't know, right? I'm sure nobody ever tried telling him. Or maybe he's only capable of perceiving technical information, so the rest of Brendan's history never entered his head?
...Not at all, he's fully aware, and he regrets joining the people who spoke out against Brendan, something he only did to fit in. He should damn well know Eich is a homophobe if he's so smart, he just doesn't give a shit.
You phrase that as if turning down a pull requests in general cannot be anti-LGBT, when they obviously can. I don’t think your link helps.
No one is trying to hurt their characters. Just stating how their actions appear.
Then I suggest not spreading comments referencing "anti lgbt stuff" when (as far as we have seen) there is nothing anti-LGBT about them. Even if you mean no harm, it can do damage, by coloring people's perception of the project and its leadership.
Speak for yourself? They have repeatedly politicised changes that make the codebase more inclusive. The thread you linked too did get heated, but this seperate PR was perfectly calm and they still locked it, while providing really contradictory reasoning. They say they don't want to "alienate anyone who'd like to join in the project" but their use of male-gendered pronouns throughout is doing just that...
I don't know if any of what you claim is true, since I haven't followed those discussions. However, even if true, none of it would mean they are anti-LGBT.
Okay, but are you going to be satisfied with anything short of them saying "I'm anti-LGBT"?
I would be satisfied with people not making wild, misleading, insulting claims about others in the first place.
I wonder why you're so intent on arguing in support of that behavior.
Thanks for telling me what I needed to know.
The brigading wasn't from the same person who made the pull request, and happened three years later. The thread isn't even that toxic as far as GitHub threads can get.
It's not a great example of what you're talking about.